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Old 02-27-2012, 12:34 AM
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Hi everyone

I'm on the lookout for a good original or older restoration 58-60 convertible. I've been doing lots of Internet research on square birds over the past few weeks. I would like to be able to identify correct engine bays and interiors when looking at cars for sale. Recently I was looking over a 1960 soft top with leather upholstery here in Oz (not for sale unfortunately). The pattern was quite plain and different from the two-tone vinyl that appears more commonly. From what I can gather, this was correct.

Can anyone recommend specific sites or photos of cars that show correct interiors and what engine bays should look like? It would at least give me a starting point for my search.

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Old 02-27-2012, 12:58 AM
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Try Automotive Mile Posts. Here is the link to the Thunderbird section of it. Then you can click on '59 or '60 and check things out as to how they should be. On the '59 page it will show you what the 352 and the 430 engine looks like. The radiator overflow tank on the 352 is parallel to the radiator. On the 430 it sits on the passenger side and the end is pointed towards the firewall. That is a quick way to tell if the engine you are looking at is a 352 or a 390. I hope this helps.

http://automotivemileposts.com/contentstbird.html
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Old 02-27-2012, 01:32 AM
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Thanks for that. It's a good site as it has all the interior colours as well. This convertible is for sale on EBay at the moment. Unfortunately it's a bit rich for my budget. However, they have provided a lot of detailed photos. Would they work as a guide?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1958-...item5648b7eed5

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Old 02-27-2012, 01:48 AM
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Hi Mark, I have seen the ad for that beautiful '58 many times, and it would be a great example of what a properly restored '58 in particular, and '59, '60 Squarebird should look like. Other than certain things like a different grill on the '58 from the '59's and '60's. Each year they had a different grill. The '58 and '59 had the same taillight 4 light set up, but the '60 had six. The neat thing about that is some owners have put the Flairbird blinking sequencing light system on their '60 Tbird. You can buy the unit for about $70 something. The chrome markings on the sides of the Squarebird is different each year. Chrome hashmarks on the door for '58, the chrome spear for '59 and the chrome hashmarks on the rear fender for the '60. You have good pictures of what the 352 looks like in these photos of the '58, and Automotive Mile Posts gives you a good picture of the 430. The door panels and interior for the '60 is different from the '58 and '59, and you can see the differences in the AMP website that I sent you the link to. Each year there was some differences in how they did the interiors, the seat covers, etc. I hope this helps.
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Two things that I noticed that are incorrect are the mirrors; they are aftermarket and not the correct design and the trunk lid padding is black. It was originally tan. I believe black is the only color available now that is being reproduced. Other than that it's a very nice restoration but remember that it is a restoration and there are probably subtle things that are incorrect if you look closely.
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I have seen this bird and have copies of the photos.

I can spend time reviewing the bird but as noted it can be used as a guide. Remember it is a guide only.

Best would be to obtain photos of the bird you are actually looking at and then ask for input.

As for a document that would help Join VTCI and order a copy of the concourse rules on CD. While this is a very nice piece it was put together by humans and we could not include everything. Next redo we will add more.

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Hi Mark. I also live in Sydney. My Farther and myself are restoring a 59 hardtop that I believe is a very original survivor, apart from a few small things. I have only seen a few in Australia. They dont come out much at rod shows. If you get one, maybe we can get together for a cruise in the future. Stu
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