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Old 07-16-2010, 10:29 PM
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It is actually a way to get to the top of the shock mount, what you see in the photo is the nut at the top of the shock.

The 58 had two options of how to mount the shocks, or I suppose you could run two shocks on either side actually. I have no idea why they did that, I am running my shocks in that spot.

Why, because that was where the shocks were mounted when I started, I never noticed that you could run them either way till I had gotten and installed the shocks. Knowing my cars history, I would guess that is where the shocks were installed from the factory, at least on my car....

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Thanks Rusty, I had no idea. Were 2 front shocks very common on that era of cars?
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Keith,
Two front shocks can be found since owners have taken advantage of the ability to do so. The factory didn't equip cars this way, nor did they intend to. The 58 TBird was slated to have an air ride --bagged-- suspension option, this is why the 58 had rear coils and the front suspension was fitted with outboard shocks as the bags and inboard shocks cannot occupy the same spot. The air ride was an option in the full size Ford, was troublesome and never make it into the Squarebird.

For 1959, 60 the TBird suspension was redesign to the more conventional setup, rear leafs and front shocks thru the coils appeared.
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Old 07-17-2010, 11:55 AM
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I just want to get a screwdriver and straighten out that air conditioning bezel.
I wonder what that car sold for at Barrett-Jackson?
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Two front shocks can be found since owners have taken advantage of the ability to do so. The factory didn't equip cars this way, nor did they intend to. The 58 TBird was slated to have an air ride --bagged-- suspension option, this is why the 58 had rear coils and the front suspension was fitted with outboard shocks as the bags and inboard shocks cannot occupy the same spot. The air ride was an option in the full size Ford, was troublesome and never make it into the Squarebird.

For 1959, 60 the TBird suspension was redesign to the more conventional setup, rear leafs and front shocks thru the coils appeared.
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A while back I gave some shop some flack about advertising a Squarebird as having "frame off restoration". I find the phrase misleading and ignorant in the case of unibody cars.

The shop responded that their use of the phrase was not intended to be literal but that the car in question had a comprehensive, professional grade restoration bringing it back to near factory condition.

The response didn't really change my opinion but at least I found they weren't using "frame off restoration" out of ignorance.

Different note: how different is Cascade Green from Teal ?

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It irks me, as I think it does many here, when you see an ad saying that a Squarebird (or any other unibody car) had a "complete frame off restoration". Either it is used because someone does not have a good knowledge of restoring a unibody car. Or because they are intentionally trying to misrepresent the extent of the restoration.

I like the comment given to JohnG when he questioned that shop. I would much rather see them make this statement. "This Tbird was given a comprehensive, professional grade restoration bringing it back to near factory condition." That is a much better way of stating the condition of the car, IMHO.

The other thing I meant to say about this '58 Tbird is this. For those of you who are looking for a rarer Squarebird, this is the year for you, if you don't mind the differences between the '58 and the '59-'60's. There are less '58's around today. The other thing I would say is this. The price listed for it, $18,900 or Make An Offer less than that, is not bad, considering the restoration done on it. If you were to buy a '58 that was in bad to average condition, you could pay a whole lot more than what he is asking for it to get it to the condition this car is in . You could take that 1 off the front of the price and replace it with a 2 or a 3 to get it to the condition this car is in now. Those of us who have done that kind of restoration can tell you for sure! I know I can! Something to think about for those of you who might be looking for a Squarebird.... So you can pay up front to get a car fully restored that you can drive anytime you want to and show off... Or... You can pay that price and a lot more over a course of time to get a Squarebird to the restoration level this car appears to be.
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Ray I totally agree with your distaste for the use of " frame off " restoration, when it relates to our squarebirds. This is known widely as the Barrett Jackson ( or any other auction company) syndrone, which is intended to drive up the selling price to the unsuspecting buyer. Having seen this listing on the 58, looking at the pictures and the asking price of $18,900, it is a fairly priced and appears to be in the # 2 category. ( again without physically seeing the car ) As a 58/ 60 owner and knowing what resorces$$ were put into my wife's car, it would appear that the majority of the restoration has been spent with someone else's money.I remember the thread on our site " How many 58's left" well.
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I really think the colors are fantastic on this car too (selling point)!!!



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