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Steve, I will answer your question with another question:
If this freeze plug is made from stamped steel (then plated), how can it possibly be defective?

It seems more likely when you remove it, the tell-tale corrosion will bear witness that it is original to the block. I hope I'm wrong. When you have a block stripped and dipped, ALL holes must be open for thorough cleaning inside and out. If they never removed your freeze plugs, you probably have rust surrounding your cylinders, inside the water jackets. Again, I hope I'm wrong, but I never saw a new freeze plug with a hole.

Indian Head is shellac. It works, but I prefer a thin coat of RTV because it never hardens and it is impervious to extreme heat and cold. Be sure your surfaces are CLEAN and oil-free. - Dave
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I got my 430cid brass freeze plugs through my local parts house "Main Auto Parts". They had to order them, but it wasn't a hassel at all.

I had to use a high temp sealant on my exhaust manifold bolts too when my engine went back together.
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Hey SC,

Man you're bummin' me out. So I got the plug out (well, in, then out) pretty easily, even at the 30 degree angle I had to work with (thanks for talking me off the ledge ) and you were right - it had not been replaced. This raises some serious concern for me about the block as you say. Thing was, it was bored and honed. One would think it was cleaned properly first as you say. I'm gonna give the machine shop a call Monday and give them what for, and demand a refund, or else some really bad press will come for them from my way. They came recommended from a guy I knew who worked at an auto store - should have went to the guys who did the '59 ford I had years earlier...
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Steve, I said, "I hope I'm wrong". That was for YOUR sake. I don't mean to bum you out, but at least now you are enlightened.

Just a couple months ago, we had a guy in Germany that paid six grand for a tranny overhaul. Turns out they never took it down past the filter! That law suit is going on as we speak.

Two 'wrongs' don't make a 'right'. If you paid to have your block 'boiled', this is STANDARD PROCEEDURE and they should have done it. Sorry for yelling, but I get upset when folks pay their money in good faith, then get ripped off.

Every rebuilder knows, these fifty year-old blocks have fifty year's accumulation of lime and rust. (Case in point; your freeze plugs.) We expect that after fifty years. Some engines overheat so bad from so much junk inside, they get pulled just to have them boiled.

Machine shops around Detroit won't put a block on a mill unless it's clean. Some shops won't bore, unless the block is Magnafluxed for cracks. It's all about proper proceedure and quality work. There is NO sense in doing work on a cracked casting. Too often, we catch poor workmanship after it's too late.

Here's a link to my favorite engine builder, D & S Engine Specialists, in Clawson, Michigan. They are a full service facility and they work WITH the customer. Check out their standard proceedure. D&S has bored a few blocks for me. Here's one of them. Steve, I should have taken pictures before I primed the block. The brass freeze plugs would have jumped right out at you. - Dave
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