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Old 10-13-2017, 09:41 AM
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I just learned about this, seems ethanol free gas is still available in many states. I have to go about 30 + miles one way to get some, but it'll be worth it. Can't see driving that far just to get gas, but to have some on hand to use in small engines and for storage for my pontoon boat is going to be nice.

Here's a link to search if it's near you.

https://www.pure-gas.org/
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Old 10-13-2017, 09:47 AM
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Small local airports sell leaded fuel and so do marinas. It ain't cheap but it's real gas. This has always been the case. Some of the more serious car racers around here have always bought 100 octane airplane gasoline.

I called the closest place to my house for ethanol-free gasoline. They want $3.39/gal., cash price. - Dave
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Old 10-13-2017, 10:03 AM
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In FL many WAWA and Racetrack stations have E-0 available, especially the newer stations, but often it does not show up on websites. Here it costs about 20% more, but its all I use in the Thunderbirds and small engines. Your 30 mile trip is just a nice warm up drive and an excuse to drive your Bird!
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Old 10-13-2017, 10:59 AM
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Good to know about the 100 octane at airports. I'll call and see if the local airport has it. If they do and depending on cost, I'll use it in my Mustang and get a re-tune. I think it'll be good for another 50 HP. Right now I have a 91 octane tune.
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Old 10-13-2017, 12:07 PM
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Small local airports sell leaded fuel and so do marinas. It ain't cheap but it's real gas. This has always been the case. Some of the more serious car racers around here have always bought 100 octane airplane gasoline.

I called the closest place to my house for ethanol-free gasoline. They want $3.39/gal., cash price. - Dave
Good grief, send me a few gallons Dave. Standard unleaded over here is running about $6.85 / imperial gallon

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Old 10-13-2017, 06:01 PM
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Yes it does cost a bit more than regular but still worth it to me. Often use it in my new cars too, but I don't realize 20% more mileage from the 20% increase in price over E-10 regular. Not really beneficial in new cars but I always use it in everything else.
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Old 10-13-2017, 07:19 PM
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Fortunately I can get 91 octane ethanol free just a couple miles from home here in Buffalo area, and due to our location on Lake Erie and lots of boating, the are dozens of choices here within a 15 mile radius. We can get 93 non-E if you're willing to hunt around for it.

I've tried using that pure-gas.org site to locate non-E gas in PA and IN the past two seasons and been disappointed because I didn't call ahead and found that the online info was out of date. My own fault and I should have learned better the first time! Be sure to get their hours when you call.
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Old 10-13-2017, 11:12 PM
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Note that "100 octane airplane gasoline" is not available for automotive applications particularly if known to be used on the streets of the good old U.S.A., per E.P.A. & the road tax collector.

This may make it somewhat challenging to acquire, and I would be surprised if any retail outlet would permit you to pump it directly into you T-Bird's tank.

Generally, one must be somewhat deceptive to purchase 100LL at the airport (not for your plane); as not having the airport tanker rolling up to your aircraft to dispense the volume required would be atypical.

The process will require one to appear at the airport with fuel cans; and in areas where airboats are common, declare this is your intended application; the vender perhaps may invoke a certain..... latitude, and permit the filling of your fuel jugs for such use. But, maybe not, as some may only permit pumping directly into the airboat's fuel tank at the airport!

Another process (still w/ fuel cans) involves one acquiring an airplane registration number off of an aircraft, perhaps out of regular view of the attendant and supply such, declaring you normally fly out of a private airstrip where no fuel is available, and..... you have miscalculated your fuel consumption and are stranded there short of fuel. Still, you may be denied.

Smaller airports, further from metropolitan areas tend to be more lenient, even some to the point where they may even help you circumvent the rules to acquire the 100LL.

Keep in mind, if your carburetor is properly jetted (tuned) for "pump grade" fuels, reevaluating such will most probably be required for "ideal" operation on 100LL (a different topic).

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Small local airports sell leaded fuel and so do marinas. It ain't cheap but it's real gas. This has always been the case. Some of the more serious car racers around here have always bought 100 octane airplane gasoline...
Many of our pumps are un-maned because, well, who is going to wait around for an airplane to pull up, especially in an executive or small airport.

As I posted, use your credit card or cash and you're in.

So Randy, your airport is very similar to many airports around the country. They make a killing on fuel sales. Thanks for investigating LAX. - Dave
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Many of our pumps are un-maned because, well, who is going to wait around for an airplane to pull up, especially in an executive or small airport. Dave
I admit, I don't get out much, but at the airports around here, they have maned fuel trucks which deliver the fuel to the planes on the tarmac; not fuel pump stations in which one taxi's their plane up to "fill-her-up"; as aircraft on the ground in motion are considered dangerous with wingspan, spinning propellers and/or jet-blast, etc., and limited pilot visibility.

Now, I'm sure there are exceptions, but would these be what one would typically expect to encounter?

And yes, "off-road" racing fuel is not cheap gasoline compared to the acceptable "road" fuels at the pump, but remember when buying such by the can, you also must include truck freighting and the cost of the can!

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