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Old 03-28-2012, 05:57 PM
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I’m getting ready to redo the fuel lines on the Bird and want to have the car off the ground. I’ve seen squarebirds with two jackstands underneath the front cross member. My question is: Is it safe to jack up a squarebird by placing the jack in the middle of the cross member? For those of you that place jackstands under the front cross member, what’s your jacking procedure?
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Old 03-28-2012, 08:04 PM
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I always use 4 stands. ( I NEVER goes under the car without stands. Never.) I jack the car up in the middle, and place 1 of each side on the crossmember. In the rear, itīs the same. Itīs not a problem as you have two wheels ( or stands ) on the other side of the car, so itīs stable anyway.
BUT: Be aware that the body does move/flex while hanging on the stands, meaning the gap in the door get tighter. So if you are careful of your paint, opend your doors before you jack it up ( and donīt close them until the car is back on mother earth ) or tape in the door opening so you donīt ruin your paint.
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Old 03-28-2012, 08:41 PM
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So just to confirm: it’s perfectly safe to place my jack where I have indicated with the green arrow?



I currently have jack stands placed under the rear axle tubes, placing the jack stands under the front cross members shouldn’t be a problem, right?

(Sorry if I’m over thinking this, I get paranoid when lifting cars. I’m always afraid I’m going to bend something!)
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that's where I lift the front of mine.

jackstands in the same location as yours.

then I leave the jack there too; in case a jackstand fails, the jack is still there in the center.

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Thanks fellas!
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I rebuilt my front end last year and I placed my jack stands where your's are placed. I raised the car by jacking in the middle of the crossmember. Of course for that job I had the front end very high. I also placed jack stands under the jacking points on both sides behind the front wheel. The service manual shows the locations of those areas.

I too, still left the floor jack under the center of the crossmember until the job was finished.

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I rebuilt my front end last year and I placed my jack stands where your's are placed. I raised the car by jacking in the middle of the crossmember. Of course for that job I had the front end very high. I also placed jack stands under the jacking points on both sides behind the front wheel. The service manual shows the locations of those areas.

I too, still left the floor jack under the center of the crossmember until the job was finished.

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When I jack my car from the side, using the locations mensioning in the shop manual, I always have a piece of wood in between, as it is very easy to damage the underbody with the jacks "two horns".

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So just to confirm: it’s perfectly safe to place my jack where I have indicated with the green arrow?



I currently have jack stands placed under the rear axle tubes, placing the jack stands under the front cross members shouldn’t be a problem, right?

(Sorry if I’m over thinking this, I get paranoid when lifting cars. I’m always afraid I’m going to bend something!)
Looking at your pic, thatīs exactly as I do it also, but with one difference. I always direct the top part ( the "horns" ) of the jack in car leingth position, so it stands firmer if there is any movement. As you have it now, with the horns pointing outboards, it looks little to scary for my taste I also use a bigger type, so the it kind of take up the thickness of the crossmember. The small one you use, I only use for the rear axle.
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So just to confirm: it’s perfectly safe to place my jack where I have indicated with the green arrow?

That's right where I put my jack when I lifted it in that shot. In fact, you can still see the jack in this shot (before I moved the stands to the front):



I still had my small 2 1/4 ton jack with limited travel at the time and since I needed to get the car up high to do the suspension, I had to do it in two stages, the second time placing the jack on a solid concrete block. Notice ho high I have the stands in that top image?

Someone mentioned how I had the stands turned sideways instead of front to back. There isn't room on that cross member to put them front to back, I don't believe, at least with my stands. There's a flange on the back side of it that prevents you from straddling the cross member in the U of the stand, so sideways made more sense.

Oh, and those are 3 ton Craftsman HD stands, pretty robust stuff. I think I still have a pair of old 3 leg 2 ton stands. I don't like to use them anymore, though, since I've got 4 of these nice, sturdy 4 legged ones.
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