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Old 03-22-2011, 10:52 PM
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When I started this forum for the Little Birders, I figured there would be lots of discussion regarding the Ford Y-Block. It's a classic engine that refuses to die.

I did a major overhaul on my 292. Now that the cylinders are bored .060" over, it uses 312 pistons. High-lift rocker arms and a true roller timing chain (advanced 4*) really woke this engine up.

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I'd like to hear about yours. - Dave
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Let's see... I think it was 1988 that I rebuilt my stock 292 in the '59 Country Sedan. My first, and only a couple pieces left over !
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Old 03-23-2011, 04:11 PM
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I had mine rebuilt and returned to nearly stock a couple of years ago. I miss the rough sound of the old build, but not the 1200 rpm idle!
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Old 03-23-2011, 04:28 PM
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Joe, did they fit yours with a racing cam? Stock Y's idle very smooth with low rpm's. (They are little engines at just 300 cubes.)

Stock cams fit 272, 292, and 312's, so they idle about the same.

If you have a stock setup, we need to find out why your idle is so high. Is your vacuum advance pancake working?

Next time your driver's side rocker cover is off (like for lash adjust) rotate the crank by hand until #6 rocker arms are level (just as the exhaust closes and the intake opens). Then look at your damper pulley crankshaft marks. It should read, ZERO (top dead center). That will verify if your timing chain is set correctly. If it's off a tooth, you won't be anywhere near TDC. - Dave
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Old 03-23-2011, 05:40 PM
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I had it built in the mid 80's with what the builder called a full race cam, compression (as I recall) was around 10:1, heads & intake matched & polished, rebalanced, headers and Smitty's. Ran quite well (dual quads for a year) to say the least, but was not "parade friendly". My interests changed and I parked the car for many years. Couple of years ago had the engine rebuilt to be more drive-able and was able to retain the .030 overbore. Its put together correctly and runs fine, just doesn't have the sound it used to!! I kept the headers but now have a full SS exhaust. The car is ready for paint as soon as the weather warms up as my furnace can't keep up with the exhaust fan.
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Old 03-24-2011, 11:08 AM
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Great pics and some good tips in there!

It looks like a small piece of brass to protect your pistons while sliding on the rings. Is that right? Good idea.

Good section on the starter usable by anyone.

Using the 292 block punched out seems to be the way to go for rebuilds. It can even go up to 3.860 to bring it up to a 308.9 CI from info on John Mummert's site.

Consensus appears to be that the bottom end of the 292 may be a little stronger and there are more crank options less expensively.

I would like to build a mild street Y and put an AOD behind it to make it as good and economical as most modern cars, especially for travel.

Of course, the T Bird oil pan is a rear sump instead of front sump as the passenger cars and there is a spacer behind the water pump so I wouldn't want to misplace those.

Are those "old school" Cragar SS wheels on the 59? NICE - Always have been my favorite. I gotta quit adding stuff to my list or I won't get this done until I hit 100.

You really need to spend more time with your dog. What a pitiful look.
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I rebuilt my 292 twice. First time was an expensive learning experience. Gave the engine to a dude, and his rebuild was TERRIBLE. Ended up throwing most all of it away. The second time was full hands on, giving the machinist specific instructions, so to achieve 9.5 CR with flat tops. Assembly other than cam bearings did myself. Worked out well, though it took lots of machine work. Heavy decking and head surfacing, intake flanges of 113 heads milled to close to max for intake. It was about 5 years ago now.

Also have a 312 completely machined, all parts on hand, but dont seem to find the time to assemble. Bored to 322 with domed pistons, 113 heads, balanced, dot dot dot.
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I’ve rebuilt several Y Blocks through the years with good results.
My first was a bone stock 272 in my 55 Club Sedan It worked well, better than a 272 had any right to.
Then the stock 272 in my 55 Glasstop. It worked well enough, still does, but developed a funky fuel pump knock that only went away after I replaced everything in the timing chest.
Builder error? After a few thousand miles, the old eccentric showed some crazy wild wear patterns. I’ll chalk it up to a bad pump arm, but something tells me I somehow messed up.
Then the stock 312 in my old 56 Monarch. A real runner, that was.
I did a refresh on the mile 272 in my wife’s 55 Town Sedan. Rings, bearings, polish, degrease, pressure wash, etc, and it runs strong.
The last on I’ll mention was interesting. I was getting sick of the 272 in the 2 door. 292 block lifted from a 59, turned down the mains on a 57 Merc crank to fit, 57 Ford 4 barrel heads, heavier rods we found at the machine shop, and used a 57 4 barrel cam.
This was in 1986. Nobody had any performance goodies out for these yet, and I just wanted a stronger engine for the Club Sedan.
Balanced the whole mess, bolted it behind a factory overdrive, welded on a reversed pair of long glasspacks as far forward as possible, used a 57 4 barrel intake and an AFB, and it was by far the most awesome 55 I’ve ever owned. I chased Crowns for years, but to me, nothing oozes cool like a slightly warmed over 2 door.
That thing ran like the bloody wind and sounded like a million bucks. Best of all, to the uninitiated, it looked completely stock.

To me, nothing beats a Y-Block for pure tradition, look, and oooh that sound.

The pic is of me behind the wheel and three rider friends in my Club Sedan in about 85 or so. Dig those tombstone seats. We were D.I.’s and our platoons had a weekend pass so we were headed to town to get T Totally Trashed.

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Excellent Y-Block history, Ernie. I love and have a '55 Town Sedan. Yeah, they're a Fordor but at this time of my life, a Fordor suits me even more than a tudor.

I have a couple 'spare' Y-blocks in my garage, both unmolested but tired and old. One is a 272 with a Fordomatic. The other is a '59 292 with a 3-speed stick . I never separated the transmissions on either.

I'm running an overhauled 292 in our '59 Galaxie because that's the stock engine. It's strong with the 3-speed C-O-M but still under 300 cubes and underpowered for such a huge car. The '55 wears a 390/C6. I do like it better than the Y's because parts are more available and as such they are less expensive. It also has a roller cam, etc. The old saying holds true: There's no replacement for displacement. - Dave
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One thing’s for sure, Dave: we bleed Ford blue.

I have a slightly beefed up 272 sitting on a stand, done and ready to run.
It’s a bagged up long block at this time, but is slated for my 53 Vicky.
That car’s a bit of a long term ‘visionary’ Project for me. I dropped it onto a rebuilt stock 54 frame and that puffed up Y will make her run. I have a 56 Vicky roof that I’m transplanting on it and I hope to make it a stock looking mild custom. Something that’ll get purists scratching their heads and thinking “Henry should have built that”.
But I expect it’ll flatout fly if i don’t run out of time on earth first.
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