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  • NYsquarebird58
    Experienced
    • Feb 6 2012
    • 352

    NYsquarebird58's Brake System Overhaul and Disc Brake Conversion

    I’m gearing up to completely overhaul and upgrade the brakes on my ’60. I have about 98% of the parts I need and if the weather permits, I can get started this weekend. Here some pics of the parts I’m using.

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    VTCI# 11860
    58HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37043 (Sold)

    60HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37252 "Lucille" (Sold)
  • NYsquarebird58
    Experienced
    • Feb 6 2012
    • 352

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    VTCI# 11860
    58HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37043 (Sold)

    60HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37252 "Lucille" (Sold)

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    • lawyercalif
      Experienced
      • May 12 2011
      • 240

      #3
      Strange lookin discs!!

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      • NYsquarebird58
        Experienced
        • Feb 6 2012
        • 352

        #4
        Originally posted by lawyercalif
        Strange lookin discs!!
        68' mustang rotors
        VTCI# 11860
        58HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37043 (Sold)

        60HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37252 "Lucille" (Sold)

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        • lawyercalif
          Experienced
          • May 12 2011
          • 240

          #5
          Originally posted by NYsquarebird58
          68' mustang rotors
          The picture shows drum brakes. I was just making a little joke! I did not see all the pictures below that.

          I am also in the process of installing front disc brakes. I have a similar looking booster but the bolts to the MC are longer so I can use either a side bracket or one that goes underneath.
          I have AC so I am using an original bendix bracket and adding a jeep extender bracket to get past the AC plenum. I am going to try something a little different with the hockey stick. I will post some pictures when I get it done. Right now I am waiting to get my car back from the garage, I have had the 390 and the C6 installed. Just a few more details before we start it for the first time.
          Hope to have it back and be working on the brakes by next week.
          Last edited by lawyercalif; April 25, 2012, 09:03 PM.

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          • YellowRose
            Super-Experienced


            • Jan 21 2008
            • 17188

            #6
            NYsquarebird58's Brake System Overhaul and Disc Brake Conversion

            Those are some great pix, Marcelo! Good luck with your conversion. You should love the braking when you are done!

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            • DKheld
              Super-Experienced
              • Aug 27 2008
              • 1583

              #7
              X2 on Rays comments - the disc brakes sure tame the beast when it comes to stopping.

              How are you connecting the booster to the pedal assembly?

              That porp. valve looks identical to the one I bought from Master Power Brakes. I was told it is a combination valve and already has the 2lb residual valve built in. Might want to check on that. Master Power has changed their wording on the valve info though and it no longer says it includes the residual. I did not use a residual valve on mine and mine works great.



              Eric

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              • simplyconnected
                Administrator
                • May 26 2009
                • 8778

                #8
                Originally posted by DKheld
                ...I was told it is a combination valve and already has the 2lb residual valve built in...
                Eric, some master cylinders had a residual valve built in but I don't think any combination proportioning valves ever did. Marcelo's is only a ten pound valve, which isn't much. It only resists on the 'return' stroke...

                Hey Marcelo, make sure you install with the free flow arrow pointed towards the rear. - Dave
                Member, Sons of the American Revolution

                CLICK HERE to see my custom hydraulic roller 390 FE build.

                "We've got to pause and ask ourselves: How much clean air do we need?"
                --Lee Iacocca

                From: Royal Oak, Michigan

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                • NYsquarebird58
                  Experienced
                  • Feb 6 2012
                  • 352

                  #9
                  Originally posted by simplyconnected
                  Eric, some master cylinders had a residual valve built in but I don't think any combination proportioning valves ever did. Marcelo's is only a ten pound valve, which isn't much. It only resists on the 'return' stroke...

                  Hey Marcelo, make sure you install with the free flow arrow pointed towards the rear. - Dave
                  Dually noted. Thanks!
                  VTCI# 11860
                  58HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37043 (Sold)

                  60HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37252 "Lucille" (Sold)

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                  • Anders
                    Super-Experienced
                    • Jan 19 2008
                    • 2213

                    #10
                    What is this for, and where will it sit?[/url]
                    sigpic..."Lil darling Ruth":)
                    http://www.tbirdregistry.com/#33158

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                    • NYsquarebird58
                      Experienced
                      • Feb 6 2012
                      • 352

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Anders
                      What is this for, and where will it sit?[/url]
                      That LED gets wired to the harness coming out of the proportioning valve.

                      If I happen to loose braking pressure, that LED will let me know about it. I'll mount it somewhere inconspicuous on the dash or console.

                      VTCI# 11860
                      58HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37043 (Sold)

                      60HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37252 "Lucille" (Sold)

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                      • DKheld
                        Super-Experienced
                        • Aug 27 2008
                        • 1583

                        #12
                        Found it!

                        Marcelo - if you don't want this info in your thread just let me know and I'll delete it and put it in a different post.....I understand completely - no big deal.

                        After almost EXACTLY 8 years (date on one receipt was 4/22/04) I located most of the parts info I used on my disc conversion.

                        Master Cyl - Advance Auto - p/n 10-1518 - receipt was too faded to read on the price. For a '75 Lincoln Mark V
                        Booster - new purchase and modifed by Power Brake Booster exchange for the 2 stud master cyl (61-64 Lincoln front - standard Tbird rear section) - $275ish including core charge and modification.
                        Rotors - Advance Auto - Wearever - p/n YH141086 - $44ea - standard Granada
                        Calipers - NAPA? - no receipt - Raylock p/n 4000? very faded not sure on # , the other was p/n 4001 standard Granada calipers.
                        Flex Lines - Master Power Brakes - HS88520K - $60 - not a perfect fit to Granada calipers had to grind off a small amount of the caliper edge to make the banjo connection seat in the orientation I wanted. http://www.mpbrakes.com/uploads/prod...STALLATION.pdf
                        Combo Valve - Master Power Brakes - VL3350 - $100 No mention of the residual valve in the combo valve but my brakes work perfectly so I won't add one or change anything - that's how good they work. http://www.mpbrakes.com/uploads/prod...0_Rev10_07.pdf
                        Banjo Bolts - Baker Precision Products (bakerprecision.com) - 150/977522 .... 7/16 -24 $12
                        Pads - NAPA - TS TS7027AM - $15
                        Purchased all the lines from NAPA too then changed the ends on a few to make it all work.


                        Eric
                        registry 5347

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                        • NYsquarebird58
                          Experienced
                          • Feb 6 2012
                          • 352

                          #13
                          Friday night project: Got my brake calipers, drums and rotors painted with POR-20 hi-temp manifold gray.

                          VTCI# 11860
                          58HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37043 (Sold)

                          60HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37252 "Lucille" (Sold)

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                          • NYsquarebird58
                            Experienced
                            • Feb 6 2012
                            • 352

                            #14
                            I got a late start on the brakes this weekend. I was able to put in a few hours today and at least get my rotors on.







































                            VTCI# 11860
                            58HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37043 (Sold)

                            60HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37252 "Lucille" (Sold)

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                            • simplyconnected
                              Administrator
                              • May 26 2009
                              • 8778

                              #15
                              Good job, Marcelo! So far everything looks great. I see they changed your upper ball joint, so someone was maintaining this car 'right and proper'. - Dave
                              Member, Sons of the American Revolution

                              CLICK HERE to see my custom hydraulic roller 390 FE build.

                              "We've got to pause and ask ourselves: How much clean air do we need?"
                              --Lee Iacocca

                              From: Royal Oak, Michigan

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