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  • The Arkansas Traveler
    Apprentice
    • Nov 25 2014
    • 34

    #16
    Glad to see that someone is getting some car building done. Too cold for the shop. I see the opportunity to use these models for working out concepts and color schemes in the future. Nice.
    Russell Cothren
    1960 Thunderbird hardtop
    1970 F 350 flatbed
    [/SIGPIC]
    "They are all crazy, we just have our favorites"

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    • Alan H. Tast, AIA
      Experienced
      • Jan 5 2008
      • 216

      #17
      Originally posted by texwardfan
      I'm sorry, but I can't let this go. For as beautiful as it is, you do realize that you don't have the right engine in it. The H-M-built Grand National stock cars ran 430s with a heavy-duty 3-speed stick-shift transmission from a '59 Mercury. Find a built-up model of a '58-'60 or '61-'67 Lincoln and use the 430 from it. AMT reissued the '66-'7 Lincoln Continental Convertible back in the '90s that can be used as well. It looks like you found a 3-speed transmission, but if someone else is wanting to model it they use one from a late '50s-early '60s Ford car/truck or Mercury, scratch-build one or modify one from a non-FoMoCo car as well.

      BTW the story of the Beauchamp/Petty controversy was told to me by an old mechanic from western Iowa who used to be Beauchamp's crew chief when I was researching my first T-bird history book in the early '90s. He pulled out a scrap book covering Beauchamp's career from dirt tracks in the Midwest through the end of his driving career, including several articles from the Omaha World-Herald about the lead-up to the race and the days afterwards. I wanted to run the story about how he got short-changed because of Petty's wife's conflict of interest in being the official lap-counter, and how the Good-Old-Boy system (Beauchamp was an outsider because he wasn't from the South) also played a factor, but my editor nixed mention of it out of fear that the France and Petty empires would sue them for defamation of character, etc. After I heard this story and did some more research I gave up watching NASCAR and put it in the same league as professional wrestling (which the World-Herald would always refer to as "rassling" in a pointed jab at how matches were pre-determined for their entertainment value).
      Alan H. Tast AIA, LEED AP BD+C
      Technical Director/Past President, Vintage Thunderbird Club Int'l.
      Author, "Thunderbird 1955-1966" & "Thunderbird 50 Years"

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        #18
        Originally posted by Alan H. Tast, AIA
        I'm sorry, but I can't let this go. For as beautiful as it is, you do realize that you don't have the right engine in it. The H-M-built Grand National stock cars ran 430s with a heavy-duty 3-speed stick-shift transmission from a '59 Mercury. Find a built-up model of a '58-'60 or '61-'67 Lincoln and use the 430 from it. AMT reissued the '66-'7 Lincoln Continental Convertible back in the '90s that can be used as well. It looks like you found a 3-speed transmission, but if someone else is wanting to model it they use one from a late '50s-early '60s Ford car/truck or Mercury, scratch-build one or modify one from a non-FoMoCo car as well.

        BTW the story of the Beauchamp/Petty controversy was told to me by an old mechanic from western Iowa who used to be Beauchamp's crew chief when I was researching my first T-bird history book in the early '90s. He pulled out a scrap book covering Beauchamp's career from dirt tracks in the Midwest through the end of his driving career, including several articles from the Omaha World-Herald about the lead-up to the race and the days afterwards. I wanted to run the story about how he got short-changed because of Petty's wife's conflict of interest in being the official lap-counter, and how the Good-Old-Boy system (Beauchamp was an outsider because he wasn't from the South) also played a factor, but my editor nixed mention of it out of fear that the France and Petty empires would sue them for defamation of character, etc. After I heard this story and did some more research I gave up watching NASCAR and put it in the same league as professional wrestling (which the World-Herald would always refer to as "rassling" in a pointed jab at how matches were pre-determined for their entertainment value).

        As hard as it was to find the kit there is no way I was going to look for the right engine. This model is what we call a shelfer and exact detail and correctness is not what I do. All I could try and do was get the color right. I googled some pictures of 430's and they were all black with white air cleaners and fans so that's about as close as I could get. I think you should build one of these and post the pictures so we can see what the car really looked like.

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        • DKheld
          Super-Experienced
          • Aug 27 2008
          • 1583

          #19
          Cool model. Very nice build.

          The 352 was his practice engine ......he was saving the 430 for the race......

          Eric

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