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Anders 05-12-2010 12:46 AM

You guys are the best! Thanks for your efforts so far! ( but you donīt give up yet eeeh?... ;) )
It soon seems to be a bargain to buy the ones from TBHQ for the 108 dollar / pair = 216 dollar set they want :o. It contains the bushings, nuts and bolts but not the arm. I donīt need the arm either.
Got one loose yesterday, and holy Toledo, there was only small sign of rubber left....

I have also checked with most vendors here in Sweden who is big on importing parts for American classic cars but they struggle big time. I still wait for answer from a guy who is specialized on Ford parts only, but itīs a one man company and he is ill at the moment, so I have to be patient here.
Itīs a bit strange realy, that this seems to be so unique as Ford is known for having Carry-over parts between models for almost everything, and that for years and years as well.:confused:

simplyconnected 05-12-2010 02:17 AM

Yeah, sometimes I can be dense. Sorry for my misunderstanding. I never thought of the trailing rear axle in the '58.

Rare Parts offers a kit that includes TWENTY parts! No wonder it's so expensive. I thought you needed a bushing or two.

I like Partsetal's take on this; if it were me, I would pursue Jed Zimmerman's letter from the fellow in Canada. He made his own bushings from correct urethane. I like the idea of pressing 20% oversize urethane into a cavity. Antifreeze makes a good assembly lubricant.

For you adventurous hobbyists, here's a site showing the dimensions of all the Rare Parts bushings:
http://www.freewebs.com/squarebird/parts.htm

Some of these parts were simply turned on a lathe. Others were cut off of longer parts. I can see the dimensions, but it would help to know the actual bolt diameters from the car. I don't see where all 20 parts need to be replaced. Someone has a line on bushing materials. - Dave

YellowRose 05-12-2010 02:29 AM

Upper Suspension ( control ) Arm Bushings, Rear
 
Anders, as you know by now, this subject of upper control arm bushings for the rear of the '58 has been kicked around a lot in the recent past. Dutchbird went through this with his '58 also. I think that either Rare Parts in California or Vintage T-Bird Sanctuary up in Oregon is the supplier of the kits to Bird Nest and others.

It is my understanding that you do not need the entire kit. Just the rear upper control arm bushings and no other parts. Correct me if I am wrong..

Now, I have found on one of the threads listed below that the '58 Ford Thunderbird Rear Suspension Kit from Rare Parts is their Part # RP18109 for the entire kit. In that kit, according to their own part listing, the Rear Upper Control Arm Bushings are Part # RP18098. I will call them tomorrow and see if they will just sell those bushings you need. They may not do it, but I can ask. I will let you know what they say. That Part # 17846 that I referenced below is just part of this RP18109 kit. That part(s) alone was $250.45!

Read those threads that Eric posted. Here is the thread that has the Part # for the kit and the Part # for the actual rear upper control arm bushings...

http://www.squarebirds.org/vbulletin...hlight=bushing

Coral 05-12-2010 10:06 AM

I did a quick look on the internet and the 'Birds are not alone in the bushing replacement field and seems to be quite an expense overall :eek: - however several people have gone and decided to make their own, here is one fella's wiki page on the subject:
http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/w...ubber_bushings

YellowRose 05-12-2010 12:42 PM

Upper Suspension ( control ) Arm Bushings, Rear
 
Anders, I just spoke with Alex at Rare Parts in California. 209-948-6005. alex@rareparts.com He just told me that the rear upper control arm bushings (Part # RP18098 or 18098) are available for $197.60. There are 8 pieces in this set he said. He also said that package contains parts to do both sides of the control arms, left and right.

He was unable to look at a break out of the parts. But here is that break out. If you go to this link and slide down, you will see the break out for Part # RP18109, the full kit. In that break out you will see RP18098, the bushings.

http://www.squarebirds.org/vbulletin...hlight=bushing

Last year, Frank58 provided this break out picture of the kit and the parts it consists of.

So here is another source for you to check out.

Anders 05-12-2010 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YellowRose (Post 44697)
Anders, I just spoke with Alex at Rare Parts in California. 209-948-6005. alex@rareparts.com He just told me that the rear upper control arm bushings (Part # RP18098 or 18098) are available for $197.60. There are 8 pieces in this set he said. He also said that package contains parts to do both sides of the control arms, left and right.

He was unable to look at a break out of the parts. But here is that break out. If you go to this link and slide down, you will see the break out for Part # RP18109, the full kit. In that break out you will see RP18098, the bushings.

http://www.squarebirds.org/vbulletin...hlight=bushing

Last year, Frank58 provided this break out picture of the kit and the parts it consists of.

So here is another source for you to check out.

Ray, Yes, Itīs the 18098 i`m looking for.
Pricewice, it seems as this set for $197.60 is similar to the one from Thunderbird Headquarter for $ 216.00 for booth sides.
But before I have it here with shipping and custom and tax ( tax even on shipping:mad: ) I might land on close to 300 hard work earned silver dollars before they are back on my car...:(

I need to look into making them out of urethane. I just wonder what " correct urethane" means.....:o

@ Cathie: I love to be able to my own bushings, but Iīm afraid itīs over my ability. But it sure looked fun :)

Anders 05-12-2010 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simplyconnected (Post 44682)

For you adventurous hobbyists, here's a site showing the dimensions of all the Rare Parts bushings:
http://www.freewebs.com/squarebird/parts.htm

Sorry for highjacking my own tread, but this link catched my interest. I have so many time wondered what happend to this guy, and his ī58. Anyone who knows?:o

Coral 05-12-2010 02:23 PM

I took a look at their guest book, seems a few of us here have already scoped them out!
I have found an email and will contact them, inviting them here

Anders, its too bad you are in fast need of these bushings, with a bit of time my uncle and I will be able to offer bushings to be available. The process is not hard to learn...

YellowRose 05-12-2010 02:48 PM

Upper Suspension ( control ) Arm Bushings, Rear
 
I tried to find out the name of the guy who has the freewebs.com/squarebird/ website, but did not see anything about him. However, I did look at all the sub pages on the left. On the Parts page, I found the list and pix of parts he had there. If you click on pic #4, I think it is, you will find the Rare Parts package labeled 18098, and the white plastic bushings for the rear upper control arms... Plus several other metal parts. But it is right there for you to look at. So is that break out pic that is posed in that other thread I referenced.. I think the other parts shown make up all or part of that kit they and others sell. It would be good to know who this guy is!

http://www.freewebs.com/squarebird/parts.htm

Coral 05-12-2010 02:58 PM

I *think* the fella's name is Doug and the Mizzus is Lynn....
I have sent an email to an addy I found, inviting them here....waiting to hear back...


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