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GeoffInCarlsbad 06-05-2016 01:58 PM

Lower Control Arm Bushing Replacement
 
Has anyone replaced their lower control arm bushing? From the Shop Manual, it looks like I have to drop the whole lower control arm from the ball-joint and frame. Can it be done my simply removing the old bushing from the frame attachment or does the whole arm have to come off?

Suspension work does not thrill me.

simplyconnected 06-05-2016 08:56 PM

Follow the procedure in your Shop Manual. Make sure you use good jack stands before going under your car. Once you get the lower arm out you can work on your bench. Even so, the bushings will not come out easy. Use a big hammer and take lots of pictures. - Dave

DKheld 06-06-2016 09:57 AM

The front end has to be lifted pretty high on the Squarebird to get the lower arms down far enough to remove the springs and A arms. Believe it was about 22 inches.

Took my bushings and A arms to a machine shop and had them press out the old and press in the new. More expensive - think they charged about $40 - but was quick and done.




Eric

GeoffInCarlsbad 06-08-2016 11:47 AM

Lower Control Arm Bushing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by simplyconnected (Post 101502)
Follow the procedure in your Shop Manual. Make sure you use good jack stands before going under your car. Once you get the lower arm out you can work on your bench. Even so, the bushings will not come out easy. Use a big hammer and take lots of pictures. - Dave

Hi Dave:

Sound advice. From looking underneath the car and the manual, it doesn't appear to be too difficult procedurally to remove the lower control arm. And I expect that if I do one, I will do the other at the same time.

While I have your attention, can the issue of a bad bushing cause the vehicle to pull right when braking? I ask because I have totally redone my brakes, new shoes, turned drums, new brake lines, flushed and new fluids, new wheel cylinders, and proper adjustment. But I am still getting this pulling issue. Any thoughts?

yep, and many pics will be on the way. :cool:

simplyconnected 06-08-2016 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeoffInCarlsbad (Post 101558)
Hi Dave:

Sound advice. From looking underneath the car and the manual, it doesn't appear to be too difficult procedurally to remove the lower control arm. And I expect that if I do one, I will do the other at the same time.

While I have your attention, can the issue of a bad bushing cause the vehicle to pull right when braking? I ask because I have totally redone my brakes, new shoes, turned drums, new brake lines, flushed and new fluids, new wheel cylinders, and proper adjustment. But I am still getting this pulling issue. Any thoughts?

yep, and many pics will be on the way. :cool:

***WARNING*** Do one side at a time. That way you can use the other side as a reference.

Shoe brakes pull. That's the nature of the beast. Sometimes they pull in one direction when cold then they pull in the opposite direction when heated up.

Why? For sure, if ANY of your steering or suspension components are sloppy you can expect a fight with the steering wheel. Another cause may be mis-matched brake linings. Each wheel needs a primary shoe and a secondary. They must be installed and bedded-in correctly.

A disk brake retrofit will stop the pulling to one side or the other. Disk brakes also stop a whole lot better. The difference is huge.

Chances are, original bushings are rotted and need to be replaced. I did mine in the driveway because I'm cheap. I used a 2-1/2" pipe nipple and a 5# hammer. This work is not for the faint-hearted, but with a little perseverance and persuasion, you can do it. I'm sure you can always find someone else to do the work for a price. Not me.

Randy Harsha lives in Fallbrook, not far from you. Send a PM to 'Randy' because he is in the middle of doing the exact same bushing and brake work on his '60 Squarebird. CLICK HERE for Randy's pictures.

Much of this work is straight forward and easier to do than to describe. Be careful and put the frame on jack stands. Then use a smaller jack under the spring before separating the lower ball joint. You won't need a spring compressor.

If you have more questions, please ask. We're here to help. - Dave

GeoffInCarlsbad 06-10-2016 07:02 PM

Awaiting parts and here we go
 
Hi Dave:

Ok, I am sending a note to Randy, per your connection. Thanks. I am trying to save myself about $400, and I am just dumb enough to try these things myself. The only that that concerns me is the removal of the ball joints from the lower control arm. Taking a 5# sledge and a pickle fork sounds frightening, but what the hell, right?

Here's what the right side looks like today:


Looks like it needs to be replaced. As for disc brakes, I am trying to stay as original as possible, plus I just did a load of brake work, and that was a learning experience! I'll get around to it in the future. It's the right thing to do.

simplyconnected 06-10-2016 08:03 PM

Yep, looks just like a worn out bushing.
Randy is a great guy and he's easy to speak with. He will show you what to expect and how he tackled his bushings. - Dave

Randy 06-10-2016 08:53 PM

Im sitting here at the airport waiting for my peeps reading this thread with my name in it how cool is that, and I would say that yes you can do it and save lots of money, I see you took it apart that was scary, lots of pictures
I thought I took enough pictures and there was still a picture I wish I had.
O and Howdy Doody this is Randy:D:D and Dave he's priceless

GeoffInCarlsbad 06-10-2016 11:21 PM

HI Randy
 
Hi Randy:

My name is Geoff, and I am over here in Carlsbad. I have not taken this apart just yet, as I am contemplating what it takes. Nothing looks terribly difficult, but separating the ball joints concerns me. Those are new ball joints, and I would hate to destroy them.

Is there a chance that if I use the pickle fork and hammer that I can save those ball joints? Do I need to disconnect both the upper and lower or can I just release the lowers?

I am awaiting the 2 bushings to be delivered before I put her up on stands and take a crack at this.

GeoffInCarlsbad 06-11-2016 10:37 AM

I found this description on Ford Muscle Forum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dsricheson (Post 1484178)
Make your own ball joint tool , works like original ford #T57P-3006-A.
4 3/4" long 1/2" allthread, 1/2'' rod coupling on on end, then 1/2" nut,2 fender washers, then a 5/8" rod coupling on the other end. Use as directed in the Fairlane shop manual, works great without damaging ball joints or dust boots.

I would love to get a picture of this. I like the fact it works great without damaging ball joints or dust boots.....

I am trying to get the author to send me a picutre of this.


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