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JamesBorisPerez 08-09-2014 02:21 PM

Power Steering Control Valve Leak
 
One of the hoses that go from the control valve to the cylinder bursted and I replaced it. I noticed that fluid is leaking from the ball joint of the control valve. I have the Ford technical bulletin and a service manual. I'm just wondering:

1) Is the ball joint under fluid pressure during normal operation.

2) What's the best way to proceed

I'm thinking of going through the basic removal process just to get familiar with removal and replacement.

I did see there is a site that re-builds these units or I can try myself.

Any assistance would be appreciated, I bought this car in Jan of 2014, my third t-bird, first two were 1964's

jopizz 08-09-2014 04:47 PM

If you see fluid coming from the ball stud then it's leaking from the spool seals. You can rebuild it yourself but I've done mine twice in the last three years and it still leaks. I just sent mine here to be rebuilt. It comes with a one year warranty and costs around $90.
http://www.stangerssite.com/

John

JamesBorisPerez 08-09-2014 06:16 PM

Power Steering Control Valve Leak
 
Thank you, I'm going to give re-building the ball joint seals a try before sending it out to re-build. I prefer the first option since my car won't be out of commission. Thank You.

JamesBorisPerez 11-07-2014 12:52 AM

Power Steering Control Valve Leak
 
Decided to remove the control valve, took me about 5 hours to remove the ball stud, could not believe it, tried heat, then a ball joint removal tool, then a heavy duty one, that did the job. Tried rebuilding it, the cost was about $50.00, still leaked. Ordered a rebuilt one from Larry's, got it yesterday, going to put in tomorrow. I think I'm getting good at this.

JamesBorisPerez 11-08-2014 04:13 PM

Power Steering Control Valve Leak
 
Took the new Control Valve out the box, looked exactly the same, installed and when I went to install the lines that go from the valve to the cylinder the fitting of the lines were too big, ****!!!!, Yes I know, should of checked it. I'm going to keep the valve, drain the fluid and remove the pump belt, then I"m on a mission to get the right lines!!

jopizz 11-08-2014 04:43 PM

Did you specify when you ordered it that the valve was for a '60. 58-59 valves have different size fittings. You should have metal lines, not rubber.

John

JamesBorisPerez 11-09-2014 03:11 AM

Power Steering Control Valve Leak
 
Yes, the first problem was one of the hoses from the control valve to the cylinder ruptured. Both of these hoses were rubber. I bought two replacement stainless steel hoses and they fit fine. The car is very stock, so I did specify 1960 control valve from Larry's. Now I have to figure out if someone sells a hose with one fitting that will fit the re-built control valve and the other end to fit the existing cylinder.

davidmij 11-09-2014 10:28 AM

I think I got my replacement hoses from Rockauto.com. Way better price, and fit perfectly. You might try them and get the one that fits a 59.

Dave

jopizz 11-09-2014 10:49 AM

I don't believe RockAuto sells the hoses from the control valve to the cylinder. They just have the hoses from the pump to the valve.

John

jopizz 11-09-2014 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesBorisPerez (Post 87782)
Yes, the first problem was one of the hoses from the control valve to the cylinder ruptured. Both of these hoses were rubber. I bought two replacement stainless steel hoses and they fit fine. The car is very stock, so I did specify 1960 control valve from Larry's. Now I have to figure out if someone sells a hose with one fitting that will fit the re-built control valve and the other end to fit the existing cylinder.

The hoses you have are probably 5/16". You need 1/4" if the fittings are too large. Normally the valve and the cylinder will match. There were cylinders that were 1/4" in 1960 to match the control valve. I've never seen hoses sold that were 1/4 on one end and 5/16 on the other. I would call Larry's and ask. If you go to your local home center store you may be able to find 1/4 to 5/16 flare adapters. Do you still have your old valve. The seats are removable. You may be able to swap them over.

John


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