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Robert Wadman 12-03-2013 09:45 AM

430 Motor Mount problems
 
I'm a new member of Squarebirds. I'm in the process of restoring a 1959 Thunderbird Convertible with two "Js' in the VIN. The previous owner replaced the 430 engine with a 352. I'm attempting to restore my car as close to original as possible. I have a 1962 430 MEL motor. Will this motor fit in my car? I'm having problems figuring out the motor mounts. Any suggestions or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
Bob

simplyconnected 12-03-2013 10:49 AM

I believe the 430 motor mounts were welded over the 352 mounts at the factory. You may see evidence that someone burned them off of your #2 crossmember. They are definitely different in bolt pattern and configuration.

I do not know who has crossmember mounts for the 430, maybe some of our vendors who keep a stock of boneyard Squarebirds. Otherwise, you can make them yourself if you can weld and cut steel. With a little paint afterward, nobody will know the difference. - Dave

YellowRose 12-03-2013 11:20 AM

430 Motor Mount problems
 
Carl Heller ~ partsetal, on here, has Squarebird parts and parts cars. He might have what you need. Send him a Private Message (PM) or perhaps he will see this and respond. You can find all our Tbird parts vendors in the Advertisements Forum. Contact the Bird House in Delaware, and the Bird Nest in Oregon. They have parts cars also.

jopizz 12-03-2013 01:52 PM

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Here's a picture of the right side mount. As Dave mentioned you should see evidence that it was removed. This is the thread where I found the picture. There are more.
http://squarebirds.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=4590

John

partsetal 12-03-2013 03:05 PM

I just picked up a Sun Roof that someone had cut away the mounts and installed a 390, so I'll be doing the same install in the Spring. The SR came with a rebuilt 430 and the mounts. I do have an extra set of mounts from a previous parts car plus another set in a car waiting for dismantling. What about transmission mounts?
Carl

Robert Wadman 12-03-2013 11:05 PM

Thanks for 430 motor mount information.
 
My second question relates to the 1962 lincoln engine. Will it work as a replacement for the original 430?
Bob

Robert Wadman 12-03-2013 11:16 PM

My 1959 Thunderbird 430 motor mounts.
 
From the picture submitted to my post, I have the correct 430 motor mounts. My problem is the motor mounts on the block of my 1962 Lincoln 430 motor. Is it possible to use a 1962 Lincoln 430 block with 1959 Thunderbird 430 motor mounts. My 1962 Lincoln 430 motor doesn't appear to work. Any ideas or suggestions? Bob

YellowRose 12-03-2013 11:39 PM

430 Motor Mount problems
 
Dave took the pictures that Jon ~tbird430 had posted and created a web page with them. I just posted that information in the Technical Resource Library for future users to have. You will find it in the Engine and Engine Bay section of the TRL under the 430MEL Engine info. Thanks John, Jon and Dave for bringing it to our attention. The link to the TRL is always right below my signature element. Can anyone answer Roberts question regarding his 1962 430MEL engine? I moved this to the 430MEL Engine Forum since it appears to be the place for it.

jopizz 12-04-2013 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Wadman (Post 80780)
From the picture submitted to my post, I have the correct 430 motor mounts. My problem is the motor mounts on the block of my 1962 Lincoln 430 motor. Is it possible to use a 1962 Lincoln 430 block with 1959 Thunderbird 430 motor mounts. My 1962 Lincoln 430 motor doesn't appear to work. Any ideas or suggestions? Bob

Yes, the '62 Lincoln 430 block is the same. You will have to use the Thunderbird motor mounts instead of the Lincoln ones.

John

simplyconnected 12-04-2013 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Wadman (Post 80779)
My second question relates to the 1962 lincoln engine. Will it work as a replacement for the original 430?
Bob

I only know of one 430 MEL engine. Whether Lincoln used a different motor mount than Ford, I don't know. The block holes should be the same. I can give you the part number for the Thunderbird 430 mount but not the Lincoln.

Check out the link Yellowrose just posted in the TRL. (or CLICK HERE) I added an illustration that should help you. If picture #5 doesn't appear, hit F5 on your keyboard to refresh the screen. - Dave


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