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tharry8 02-27-2011 11:52 AM

1964 T-Bird Oil Pump Installation
 
Need some help. My son and I needed to replace the gasket on the oil pan (was leaking). To drop the pan you have to unbolt the oil pump. That was easy...

How do you reinstall the oil pump? The repair manual says to place pump in pan, and raise pan up and rest on the cross member (cross member is in way, so cannot lift pan straight up, that is why the oil pump had to be removed). Somehow we are supposed to install the pump drive shaft into the oil pump and into the distributor shaft hex opening. There is only a couple of inches (maybe 2) to manipulate it. There must be a technique for this.

The other thing I was thinking about is installing the pump without the shaft. Then I could remove the distributor and install the shaft from the top. Any thoughts on this?

Appreciate any help.

redstangbob 02-27-2011 01:33 PM

Looks like you got the best answer already at another site. That's the way to do it. I use 6 small zip ties to locate the pan gasket so it doesn't fall off, just leave them loose and cut them after starting the pan bolts. I don't like dropping the shaft in from the top, if it goes wrong, you'll be sorry! have the front of the car high enough to work, and take your time, it's not that hard. Good luck, Bob C

tharry8 02-27-2011 03:36 PM

Bob - Which answer is the best that you are referring to? Also, good idea on holding the gasket in place!

redstangbob 02-27-2011 05:14 PM

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If the motor mounts are old and squished out, you might not get the pan up with the pump in place. Put all your parts in the pan and let it rest on the cross member. A glob of grease will hold the shaft in the distributor. Put the pick up on last if you have a tight squeeze, and I use silicone where the rear main cap and front cover parting lines are. Hope this helps, Bob C

tharry8 02-27-2011 10:29 PM

Thanks Bob. There is less than 2" between the pan and engine, so I think I will have to jack the engine up as well.

tbirds8 02-28-2011 05:33 PM

I took the pan off my 66 without takeing the pump off. Just jacked the motor up as high as it would go and turned the crank to get it to clear. it fell off

YellowRose 02-28-2011 07:00 PM

1964 T-Bird Oil Pump Installation
 
Ummmmm! Before anyone raises their engine up.... Remember to raise the hood first!.... Don't do what one of the village idiots here did while working on my Tbird. His manager told him to open the hood before he started working on replacing my engine mounts. He forgot to, pushed up on the engine and drove the retaining rod that the bat wing nut screws onto to keep the air cleaner locked down, right into the center of my hood, dimpling it. They had to take the hood off and get it fixed, and HE lost his job...

simplyconnected 02-28-2011 07:25 PM

Ray, was that the same idiot that caused an electrical fire under your dash? Or the guy who wiped out your constant voltage regulator (twice)?

I mean, c'mon... who would raise an engine with the hood closed??? Even if he didn't use an overhead crane, at least you get more light under the engine with the hood open.

You might want to disconnect your fuel line and radiator hoses before lifting. Watch your trans lines and fan, too.

scumdog 02-28-2011 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by simplyconnected (Post 53498)

You might want to disconnect your fuel line and radiator hoses before lifting. Watch your trans lines and fan, too.

Yep, keep an eye on that bottom fan-blade as you lift the motor at the front

As the motor angle increases the bottom blade gets closer to the radiator.

YellowRose 02-28-2011 07:36 PM

1964 T-Bird Oil Pump Installation
 
No, that was another of the village idiots who used to work there. That was also the business that the owners son ran Rose into the back of the manager's F-250 pickem up truck and destroyed her front end... I don't do business with them anymore....


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