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57ford/60thunderbird 05-07-2009 04:54 PM

is this engine a 430?
 
hey all when i bought my 60 it came with an "extra" used long block but the guy cant remember what size it is i was told buy the guys over on y-blocksforever they think it is a 59 430 the only number i can find anywhere on the block are B9VE-B could someone tell me if this is a 430 and if possible tell me what family its from or maybe post a pic or two of a 430 block

the guy i got it from told me it was either a 429 or a 460 said a friend of his had it in a boat and that a 460 aluminum intake bolted right to it no problems thanks for your help keith

Dan Leavens 05-07-2009 05:44 PM

Keith perhaps someone else with a 430 can identify the casting numbers on the block B9VE-B:confused: On the main page there is a search button enter " engine size " push the button and all the threads / posts will come up regarding this topic. Scroll down to 430 engine and see the thread/posts of 10.29.05. Hope this helps.:D

Howard Prout 05-07-2009 07:36 PM

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Don't know about the casting numbers but does it look like this?

57ford/60thunderbird 05-07-2009 07:52 PM

thanks for the replys guys ill check out that page of info

howard actually i dont think it does i dont remember it haveing freezeout plugs above the trans flange it will get home this saturday and ill snap a few pics of it then

Richard D. Hord 05-07-2009 07:57 PM

Hey Keith,
All my Thunderbird shop manual says is: patent plate symbol for the engine should be J

57ford/60thunderbird 05-07-2009 08:15 PM

is the patent plate the same as a door plate or data plate? if so i dont have one this was just an engine laying in the guys barn has been out of the car for years

Hawkrod 05-08-2009 07:08 PM

B9VE should be a 430, that is a Lincoln casting number and they only used the 430. I have a Merc 383 and it has a B9ME number which indicates they did not use the same casting as a 430. Hawkrod

scumdog 05-08-2009 09:05 PM

The earliest casting on a 429 or 460 would start with C8*****

57ford/60thunderbird 05-08-2009 09:33 PM

ok thanks guys so is the 430 and a 460 the same engine family? and is a 430 worth messing around with ? i got this engine to possibly use it in my 57 ford sedan

are parts readilly availible for a 430?

scumdog 05-08-2009 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 57ford/60thunderbird (Post 31348)
ok thanks guys so is the 430 and a 460 the same engine family? and is a 430 worth messing around with ? i got this engine to possibly use it in my 57 ford sedan

are parts readilly availible for a 430?

NO!

Thet are TOTALLY different.

The C8** type number indicates they started building 640s in 1968 - long after 430s had gone the way of the dodo - hence parts for a 430 are not too easy to find..

Only the name is the same, I doubt if even the distributor cap interchanges between the 430 and 460.


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