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gregz 08-11-2016 09:10 AM

seat foam
It was sad news to hear of the passing of Jed Zimmerman. This winter I will be having my interior re-done and was planning on purchasing new rear seat foam. I know he was a supplier to some of the Tbird vendors. My question is as far as suppliers go, which vendor seems to have quality foam? I was also thinking about having my trim shop make them, but this might be more costly then just purchasing them. I am not going with a stock pattern for my seats, front seats are out of a Grand Prix, so my back seat will have some changes made to them.

YellowRose 08-11-2016 10:45 AM

seat foam
Hi Greg, I do not know which of the vendors has the better foam, if there is any difference. Perhaps some of the guys on here who have bought foam from our vendors will comment on this. You might be better off having your trim shop make them. My trim shop could have made mine but I got them from Jed, who also re-did my steering wheel. I do not know who is doing steering wheels now. If anyone knows, let us know.

jopizz 08-11-2016 11:02 AM

Most of the foams that I have purchased from different vendors recently have come from Thunderbird Headquarters. They seem to be larger than the original foam to the point where the door arm rest digs into the side of the seat. I only purchased the fronts as my local upholstery shop said they could make the backs a lot cheaper than buying them.


Tbird1044 08-11-2016 01:08 PM

I bought the complete set of foam from T.Headquarters for about $600. If you're not local there will be shipping charges also on top of that. I haven't had the complete install done yet, but I did use the foam on the drivers seat, with an old seat cover, to move the car around during reassembly. I have noticed that the preformed foam is very firm. If your looking for a cush ride, this stuff is pretty solid. A friend had his upholstery shop make the foam and I like the feel a lot better. It would be good to see how much a shop would want to custom make the foam, and then compare price.

gregz 08-11-2016 06:31 PM

seat foam
Thanks for the info, I think I will check with the trim shop I will be dealing with and relay the info about what is available from the vendors and see if he would just want to make new ones.

simplyconnected 08-12-2016 05:07 AM

Foam comes in many grades, mostly depending on the rubber content. Some foam lasts about five years before it starts falling apart. Good foam costs much more but it lasts far longer.

Greg, if you want an education on different foams visit 'Foam-N-More' in Clawson, MI. They have it all and are helpful so they sell exactly what you need.

I just completed two complete sets for my cousin's Amphicars, using different foams for seats, door panels, kick panels, etc. - Dave

gregz 08-12-2016 06:19 AM

seat foam
Thanks Dave I'll check them out. I've been busy with car hope to hook up with you soon.

kimmc 08-12-2016 10:42 PM

Seat foam
I bought front & back seat foam from TBird Headquarters for Ruby. The back seat would not go in correctly; seemed too big to fit properly. Plan to take it to a different upholsterer (better one) to get it fit right. Gremlins!! Hate those little suckers...

gregz 08-13-2016 08:06 AM

seat foam
kimmc this is another reason why I will let my trimmer do the foam. I can't see spending the money for the seat foam + the oversize shipping charge just to have to make modifications to it to make it right.

simplyconnected 08-13-2016 07:29 PM

Gentlemen, 'Mechanics' and 'Electrical' are exact sciences. Trim is a very in-exact art.

Seat foams are the foundation for seat covers. I already mentioned differences in foam densities and rubber content, two important factors in foam quality. Rarely are the covers exactly the same size or sewn exactly the same.

Trimmers commonly stuff more foam in places where the cover needs to 'fill-in'. Conversely, too much foam cushion can always be trimmed with an electric carving knife, which is how Jed Zimmerman contoured his foams.

There are differences in leather and vinyl. They stretch differently, colors change in both from batch to batch and they age differently. At the factory, we cut the holes in leather (for pivot bolts, head rests, etc.) right on the line, minutes before the seats are installed. Not so with vinyl or cloth. We do it that way because of wide variations in leather seat covers.

Unless YOU are the one hog ringing, finding the differences or errors is nearly impossible once the job is finished.

Trimmers are artists and with any artist some are better than others. It is important to see examples of their work before hiring one. More importantly, ask to see work done five or then years ago. - Dave

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