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1958Bird 07-15-2013 12:47 AM

1958 Thunderbird Convertible
Hi All, I am new to the forum.
I am new to the TBirds scene and I was wondering how rare a 1958 Thunderbird Convertible is? I have the chance to purchase one that has been hidden away for a very long time and has not been registered since 1964. This is a complete car with NO rust at all. It is body number 0929.

Thanks in advance

Ca58tbird 07-15-2013 01:51 AM

Without checking exact production numbers, a few thousand of the convertibles were made in 58. Might have been something like 2900 of them. According to John Rotellla's http://www.tbirdregistry.com, there's 112 of these cars known to exist today.

So probably don't ask any more questions, just buy the darn bird and feel very good about yourself. Oh yes maybe one more question, How many 58 converts are in Australia?

1958Bird 07-15-2013 02:14 AM

Thanks mate. I will let you know tomorrow how I went.:)

YellowRose 07-15-2013 02:23 AM

1958 Thunderbird Convertible
'58 Convertible s are fairly rare with only 2,134 made. As Jed said, not that many are known to be left. When you open the drivers door, on the post that the door closes on, you should find the Data Plate there. On that plate, it gives you the VIN #, the information on the car model, which should be a convertible, color of the car, the interior color, the date it was scheduled to be built, the tranny and axle in it all when it went down the line. Here is a link that will give you more information about the '58 Squarebird. As Jed said, grab it if it is really good condition. We have a Vehicle Check List you can use to check out the car with. You will find it at the bottom of the Technical Resource Library, the link to which is always below my signature element. Print it out and run the check list against the car.


1958Bird 07-15-2013 02:39 AM

Body is 76A, Color is M, Trim is XM, Date is 09F Trans 4, axle 1

YellowRose 07-15-2013 02:52 AM

1958 Thunderbird Convertible
Hi Darren, I see you know the Data Plate information. The 76A tells you it is a Convertible. The M tells you it had a Gulfstream Blue paint job on it when it left the factory. The XM tells you it had a vinyl Turquoise and White interior. The 09F tells you it was scheduled for production on the 9th of June. That does not mean that it was actually built on that day because the line could have been ahead or behind schedule on that day. So it could have been actually built before or after that date. The Tranny Code 4 says it had a Cruise-O-Matic. The Axle Code 1 says it had a 3.10 axle in it. So that is what she left the factory as.

If the car has been registered in the Thunderbird Registry, you can enter the VIN # off the Data Plate and it will tell you if a previous owner has registered it on the Registry. If not, you can register it yourself. The idea behind the registry is to make a record of every known Tbird made, whether it has been crushed, a parts car, or still in use. The link to it is:


Hope the information I have provided to you helps.

Ca58tbird 07-15-2013 02:57 AM

Darren, the tbird registry has one Aussie 58 convert registered as #25166 with a vin# of H8YJ131158.

Comments: Mario who lives in Melbourne, Australia says that he now owns this 1958 Thuderbird. It will be restored soon. Carl Tomasello of New Jersey registered this car on April 4, 2005 and he says: This is a four owner car--originally from California. It was restored about seven years ago from a truly rust free car. It was originally blue and is now red.

1958Bird 07-21-2013 11:11 PM

Well, I now own a 1958 Thunderbird Convertible :).
The car has NO rust, the original 352 motor, auto gearbox and all of the parts are there. It even has the original 1965 California number plates with the 1965 registration sticker on the top right hand side.
Apparently the car was with a collector in the US who had the car since 1965. The car sat in his collection for the next 41 years. It was then sold to the person I bought the car off and he had it from 2006 up until last week (7 years). So from what I can work out this car has been MIA for 49 years.

I am extremely happy with the car, as I said it has no rust anywhere and hopefully it will only take me about 6 to 12 months long to get it back on the road (well thatís the plan). It will be restored to original condition. From what iI can work out it was the 8th Convertible produced according to the body number.
Does anyone know how many were produced in this colour and trim? I will up load some photos when I work out how.

jopizz 07-21-2013 11:22 PM

Unfortunately there are no records existing that show how many of a certain color and trim were built. The best you can do is go to the Thunderbird Registry and look up the data on cars that have been registered. I know that Bill Van Ess used to keep records on '58 convertibles. He may have more information. Congrats on your new acquisition. Glad to hear that it's in such good condition.


YellowRose 07-22-2013 12:15 AM

1958 Thunderbird Convertible
Hi Darren, as John said, there were no records like that kept back then. Color Code M = Blue/Green or Sales Name Gulfstream Blue. In a exterior color usage survey conducted 12/2009 by Alan Tast, Past VTCI President, and present VTCI Technical Director, that color show up only 1.35% in the survey, making it one of the more rare colors. Bill Van Ess is a member of this Forum, so if he sees this, he might be able to tell you more. As for posting pix of your Tbird, the Welcome I posted for you when you joined tells you the ways you can do that. Here is the link to it.


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