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    brake line

    I was going t the shop in my 1960 T-Bird loving life and enjoying the day when the brake pedal went to the floor. I was doing about 60 mph lucky I have a very good mechanic who when I had my brajes done repaired my emergency brake. It saved my life and the cost of a tow since I drove another 40 miles to the shop. My nerves were shot at the end of my trip however the angels were looking out for me, you see kanter auto parts sent me some replacement hoses because there was some kind of recall on the lines that I bought from them some years back, I was on my way to have them installed, good for me better them, all in all no harm done.
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    • Alexander
      Webmaster
      • Oct 30 2002
      • 3321
      #2
      RE: brake line

      Oh my goodness. That is scary. What hose or line failed on your car?

      Alexander
      1959 Hardtop
      1960 Golde Top
      Alexander
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      1960 Golde Top
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        • Guest
          #3
          RE: brake line

          The rear steel line on the rear end.

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            • JohnG
              John
              • Jul 28 2003
              • 2341
              #4
              RE: brake line

              Am I correct that he then proceeded to lose ALL 4 of his brakes because the TBird has no "proportioning valve" near the master cylinder to split up the front and rear?? In other words, if he had such a valve then he would have only lost the rear brakes??

              I have to admit my nerves would have been shot, too!!

              John
              1958 Hardtop
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                • partsetal
                  Super-Experienced
                  • Jun 4 2005
                  • 853
                  #5
                  RE: brake line

                  The proportioning valve is used in front disc/rear drum applications. The function is to reduce the hydraulic pressure at the rear drum brakes when high pressure is required at the front disc brakes.
                  In the single system master cylinder as is standard on the squarebirds, any leak anywhere in the system would result in total brake failure whether you had a proportioning valve installed or not. Vehicles with the dual system master cylinder (two separate hydraulic circuits) when faced with a failure in one system will still have some braking with the other system.
                  The well maintained single system using quality parts will provide many miles of safe and reliable braking, and the well maintained parking brake system provides adequate backup if needed, imho

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                    • Guest
                      #6
                      RE: brake line

                      Right, The system we have is very good when properly maintained. My car was put together 8 years ago. I only replaced the rubber because at the time hey looked good. our cars sit low to the ground and where I keep my car although iside I have a soft floor. everyone please check your lines, I am taking my wife to a family reuion and am glad the brakes failed on me without her, if she was in the car when it happened she would never ride it the car again. she loves that car!
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                        • byersmtrco
                          Super-Experienced
                          • Sep 28 2004
                          • 1839
                          #7
                          RE: brake line

                          Mmmm . . . No.

                          One time, the L/F Brake hose in my 72 El Camino blew.
                          The prop/valve did it's job and blocked off the front. I still had a low pedal and stopped with the rear brks.
                          Saved my a** !!!

                          My 60 now has an adjustable p/valve (came with the SBC kit)
                          It will operate in the same manner (Hopefully I'll never find out)
                          should a line fail.

                          If you update a 58-60 to a dual cyl, you should run a valve. It won't displace the fluid properly (1st hand exper at this) and try to stop more with the rear. You'll smoke the rear drums.


                          JB

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                            • Guest
                              #8
                              RE: brake line

                              JB
                              A dual master cylinder upgrade is a great idea and is relatively cheap insurance. However, it's important to make a distinction: A proportioning valve is appropriate for disc/drum combinations. If folks choose to use the dual cylinder setup on a stock drum/drum bird, then RESIDUAL valves are necessary.

                              Howard

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                                • Guest
                                  #9
                                  RE: brake line

                                  where do you get that valve from?

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                                    • Guest
                                      #10
                                      RE: brake line

                                      Inlinetube.com
                                      They have reasonable price, lots of brake line stuff. You'll need a 10 lb. residual valve for each reservoir that serves drum brakes.
                                      As always, do some homework and get second opinions - especially on brakes!

                                      Howard

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