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  • second59
    Apprentice
    • Jul 2 2006
    • 31

    Exhaust Manifold - Help Please !

    I'm in dire need of a Passenger Side Exhaust Manifold for my 60 TBird Hard Top. I have located one out west with part number C6AE 9430 A.... (It may be from a 390 ? ? ) however I'm not sure if it will line up with the H Pipe? Does anyone have this Part number on their 59 or 60 Bird Ex Manifold or could someone wiser than I please chime in with some badly needed advise ! Thanks Tony
  • JohnG
    John
    • Jul 28 2003
    • 2341

    #2
    hi Tony,

    I have a manual of "Illustrations" that I got from the TBird Sanctuary. (scanned in copies of Ford parts manuals) It shows 9430 as being the passenger side exhaust manifold (and 9431 as driver's side). I think the C in the front of the part number means its a 1960 part, correct in your case.

    The bottom of the page says the diagrams refer to "352/390/428 Engine Views" (but not 430)

    John

    ps I see you are in Calgary. If some guy named Dan (aka Dano) should try to buy your car from you, don't let him as he has too many already and is trying to singlehandedly corner the market.
    Last edited by JohnG; August 9, 2008, 01:38 PM.
    1958 Hardtop
    #8452 TBird Registry
    http://tbird.info/registry/DataSheet...r~equals~8452)

    photo: http://www.squarebirds.org/users/joh...d_June2009.jpg
    history:
    http://www.squarebirds.org/users/johng/OCC.htm

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    • tbird430
      Super-Experienced
      • Jun 18 2007
      • 2648

      #3
      I think a few of our T-Bird venders are selling them new now for the 352cid-390cid....
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      The 1960 Ford Thunderbird. The WORLD'S most wanted car....

      VTCI Member#6287.

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      • second59
        Apprentice
        • Jul 2 2006
        • 31

        #4
        Exhaust Manifold Help

        Thanks for the info John. I know it will fit the 352 engine OK but it's the Exhaust H Pipe matching up that I'm worried about. I would hate to take a chance on the C6AE 9430 A and find out it won't meet my 1960 exhaust H pipe. Does anyone have this part number on their 59/60 TBird or ....a spare manifold lying around for sale or.... any ideas? By the way I saw Dan....AKA Dano (one of our forum moderators) Thursday at our TBird Club Meeting. He was there in body only since there was a football game on TV in the room next door and... he does'nt have an extra exhaust manifold !

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        • Guest

          #5
          Tony I have a 9430 and 9431.How much were they wanting for it out west.I will beat there price.They are not new but I will send you a pic of them if you are interested George

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          • Guest

            #6
            Here are some pics


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            • JohnG
              John
              • Jul 28 2003
              • 2341

              #7
              Tony, the part # in the listing I cited meant that it not only fit the engine but the car! So the H pipe is not an issue. (There is a heat riser in between as you doubtless know). George's part(s) should take care of you...

              john
              1958 Hardtop
              #8452 TBird Registry
              http://tbird.info/registry/DataSheet...r~equals~8452)

              photo: http://www.squarebirds.org/users/joh...d_June2009.jpg
              history:
              http://www.squarebirds.org/users/johng/OCC.htm

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              • second59
                Apprentice
                • Jul 2 2006
                • 31

                #8
                Exhaust Manfold

                Right George, I'll check out his price and let you know. Since these things are quite heavy I'll also check on the cost of Mailing from Florida and send you a Private Message later.
                Thanks Tony.

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                • Dan Leavens
                  Moderator / Administrator


                  • Oct 4 2006
                  • 6366

                  #9
                  Exhaust Manifold

                  Well guys it's always nice to know that when I get on our site and see my name, that your comments are warmly sent.With respect to cornering the market ( John ) let's say " I had an offer I couldn'r refuse " on the 60HT.
                  As for the football game ( Tony ) you know I am a season ticket holder and that was an important game for our Stampeders. Tony, George
                  ( Colonel ) has been a long time member and you can trust his judgement and condition of the manifolds. As a side note, you may want to consider getting both sides moving forward in case you need the other one.Failing that, we have enough prople up here that can probably use it, which would include me. Call me, if you want to split the costs and freight.

                  Dano Calgary,Alberta Canada
                  Dano Calgary,Alberta Canada
                  Thunderbird Registry
                  58HT #33317
                  60 HT (Sold )

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                  • mrtbird64
                    Newbie
                    • Jan 26 2008
                    • 13

                    #10
                    Hey Dan ,did you sell your 60 HT? I just finished my "58" and sold it last Thursday when I should have been at the meeting with Tony.

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                    • Hawkrod
                      Experienced
                      • Oct 31 2005
                      • 288

                      #11
                      63 and newer manifolds are different than 62 and older. The engineering number tells you what a part was designed for but not always what it was used on as a part can be used for many different models. The first letter is the decade. C is 1960's, B is 1950's but note that this number system was not used until 59 so a 58 or early 59 manifold can have a 575XXXX number on it. The third slot is the carline that the part was designed for A is Galaxie S is Tbird etc.. but that does not mean that those are the only cars that they were used on. The fourth slot denotes the engineering group that designed the part, E is the engine group F is Fuel and ignition B is body etc... A 66 manifold is what C6AE means (66 fullsize car although also fit a lot of other cars too). Tchickens manifolds are 63 which is what the C3SE means in the casting number. Both of those manifold sets use the later donut style gasket that 62 and older cars do not use. Hawkrod

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                      • second59
                        Apprentice
                        • Jul 2 2006
                        • 31

                        #12
                        Question for Hawkrod .

                        Thanks for the info Hawkrod, that helps allot...but I have one more question...Do you think these C3SE manifolds that TChicken (George) has will line up with the H Pipe on my 352 ci 1960 Bird ? It would sure be nice to know, since I just assumed they came off a 1960 TBird? Thanks

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                        • Hawkrod
                          Experienced
                          • Oct 31 2005
                          • 288

                          #13
                          I can't tell you if they will line up but I can tell you that I tried to use 63 manifolds on a 62 which do line up and there was no way to make them seal as they outlet flange is machined differently. I think I may have a pair of 60 manifolds if you still need them but I have to check. I know I already sold the shortblock but I think I kept the whole top end of the engine when I cut the car up (watch for eBay soon! A ton of amazing rust free sheetmetal except the side where the car got hit). Of course I am in California so shipping would cost a fortune probably but at least they are not rusty or pitted! Hawkrod

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                          • second59
                            Apprentice
                            • Jul 2 2006
                            • 31

                            #14
                            Exhst Manifold Application

                            Thanks again Hawkrod...If you could check on those 1960 TBird Manifolds I would sure appreciate it. Could you please let me know what the part numbers are? It may help me answer this question once and for all. If some members with a 60 Squarebirds could chime in here with the numbers of their Exhst Manifolds... I may finally find out if a C3SE 9430 - B and C3SE 9431 - B will actually line up with the Exhaust H Pipe. I'd hate to waste allot of time trying to install them only to find they won't line up. Any advice our Members could offer would be huge timesaver. and much appreciated ?

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                            • Hawkrod
                              Experienced
                              • Oct 31 2005
                              • 288

                              #15
                              Okay, I went and checked. I do have the manifolds. I will pull them off and compare them to some C3SE manifolds I have on a complete engine later today. The numbers are 5759731 and 5751204. One is dated June of 60 and the other is dated July of 60. They are not pitted or damaged in any way that I can see except one stud is less than perfect and the wheel is gone from the heat riser. I will inspect them closer once I have them off. They appear as though they have never been off before as they still have the factory bolt locks on them (not used to seeing that anymore!). Also note that 63 and newer manifolds do not use the heat riser. Hawkrod

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