Hard to tell - looks close but so did the '77 Tbird spindles that I bought and were told they were Granada. Didn't work because the upper area of the spindle stuck out too far compared to the original Tbird and Granada spindles so the camber was all wrong and the car couldn't be aligned.

Take a look at this pic - the blue line represents the amount of distance away from the spindle center line at the top. You can see the '77 Tbird spindle (and probably other full size Ford spindles) would stick out further at the top than Tbird or Granada spindles.



Yours seem to have the vent in the splash shield or backing plate like mine. Could be that mine are Lincoln Versailles which are supposedly the same as Granada. I was told mine were Granada but didn't actually see the car they came off of.

I'll include a few pics of mine. If it were me though - I'd scrap them or try and sell them - maybe a hot rod shop would give you enough to buy the Scarebird brackets. Believe the Scarebird brackets are the way to go mostly because it is difficult to find an alignment shop that will adjust the settings and try to find a good alignment for the Tbird with Granada spindles. I got lucky on mine and plan on getting the settings for those that want to go that route but had an engine fire recently and won't be going to a shop to have it checked any time soon.

I'd hate to see you get those all bolted up and installed only to find out that the car won't align - been there done that.

Also - not sure you are aware - but you have to machine the lower hole on the Granada/Versailles spindle to fit the Tbird ball joint - that is a tapered hole. Found a hot rod shop about 30 min from the house that was familiar with the modification. Wasn't cheap - think they charged $80 for both and that was 10+ years ago.

Eric


Granada conversion....

Hold the fort, Eric. For a long time I couldn't figure why my Granada spindles work well and yours didn't.

We have since determined that your upper ball joints are mounted incorrectly, making the spindle stick out incorrectly. The ball joint flange should be mounted on the top but your ball joints are mounted from the bottom of your upper 'A' arms.

I'm using Granada spindles on our '55 and they work beautifully. In fact, I see very little difference between the Granada setup on the '55 and the Scarebird setup on our '59. They both function nearly identically; 1,000% better than the drums they replaced.

It's true that the stock Granada's bottom hole needs to be wider but Versailles spindles are already the correct size. Sqeedwaymotors.com is one place that sells the 'Ford-type' tapered reamer. Simply use the ball joint stud to determine how far to go:



The spindles are made of soft steel so a drill press is all I used to widen mine. In fact, I will loan you my reamer if you need it. Just let me know.

OX1, your pictures sure look like a Granada setup. - Dave

Thanks for the ream dimensions

I may have the correct ream. When I converted my 70 Bronco D44 front axle to disk, I used the earlier spindles (tie rods sit up higher for offroad clearance) with the later tie rod setup, had to ream spindle the same way.

Dave - the Granada spindles I installed (far left in the above pic) work fine on my Tbird. It was the '77 Tbird spindles (far right in the above pic) that I was told were Granada spindles that didn't work.

Original spindle with no changes to the upper shims (before I started)



After installing the '77 Tbird spindles with ALL the shims removed. May be hard to tell but the wheels were so far out it was obvious those were not the right spindles.



I've probably got a little negative camber with the ball joint on the bottom but that was aligned out to 0 at first - then the shop set it slightly negative about the third trip back. They promised to give me a print out of the final settings but as my luck goes the place closed down. In business 60+ years. One week they were open and next the doors were shut. It was in town location and found out later the owner got such a good offer on the property he called it quits.

Been hoping that I can get to an alignment shop and find out how it is set for future reference.

Don't think I have a pic like above down the side with the Granada spindles installed but the wheels/tires did not stick out any where near as far as with the '77 Tbird spindles. Some time back we were all comparing ride height too and mine was within a 1/4 inch of the stock heights. Of course that all depends on spring wear etc but just as an average.




Eric