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  • #16
    THANKS RAY!
    You went out of your way again, working so hard to get these pictures and getting them posted, for all of us to enjoy!
    Question, it looks like only the skin is stainless, am I correct or not?
    Still what a beautiful example of The Ford Thunderbird!!!
    Thanks again,
    Richard D. Hord
    sigpic'60 Thunderbird "Christine"
    Registry #33436

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    • #17
      Stainless '60 substructure

      Only the exterior skin is stainless - the remainder of the underbody is carbon steel. During the '91 VTCI International in Falls Church, VA when one of the stainless cars was on display we had a Q&A session about it. One of the comments that came up was that the stainless has to be separated from the inner structure with either a copper spacer or some other material to prevent dielectric action between the two dissimilar metals.
      Alan H. Tast AIA, LEED AP BD+C
      Technical Director/Past President, Vintage Thunderbird Club Int'l.
      Author, "Thunderbird 1955-1966" & "Thunderbird 50 Years"

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      • #18
        I've got & couple of questions.
        Which weighed more , the Stainless or regular T. Birds, &
        by how much? What guage were the Stainless as per the Steel?

        Chris....From the Land of OZ.

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        • #19
          Nice Job

          Nice Job Ray --- sorry to see so much damage to the right side of the SS 60 bird-- I wonder why it has not been restored along with the dents in the left door

          am I seeing correctly that the underside of the hood and trunk are painted white?

          and looking at the engine those do not seem to be stock valve covers --- a lot of differences that i did not expect to see
          Jack Ferguson
          1959 TBird hard top
          Regestry #19452

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          • #20
            The Stainless Steel '60 Tbirds

            Thank you! I will try to answer some of your questions. I do not know what gauge of stainless steel was used. I do know that the body was made of Type 302 stainless steel. The trim was made of Type 430 stainless steel. Alan has answered the question regarding the exterior of these two Tbirds.

            As to why the damage to the Tbird in the picture has not been restored, leadership changes over the years. At first, they were very well cared for. Then someone made the decision to allow Employee's of the Month to drive them each month. Then later on this was stopped, and then started again, I think. So the cars were damaged from daily use. They have been overhauled completely in the past. But there does not seem to be the interest in A-L to overhaul them again.

            Yes, white paint was used under the hood, and in the trunk and other places on the car. Someone over the years, probably replaced the original valve covers with those you see on the car.

            '59 Tbird weighs 3810 lbs. I think the regular '59 & '60 Tbirds weigh the same. The '60 SS Tbird weighs 3,955lbs according to information I have.

            I will probably put some more information on the web page about the Tnirds later on tonight. Or tomorrow.
            Last edited by YellowRose; May 3rd, 2009, 01:20 AM.

            Ray Clark - Squarebirds Administrator
            '59 Tbird "The Yellow Rose Of Texas" aka "Tweety Bird"
            "It's Hip To Be Square"
            Thunderbird Registry #33025 VTCI #11178

            Contact me via Private Message for my email address, or (Cell) 210-875-1411 (Home) 210-674-5781

            http://www.squarebirds.org/picture_gallery/TechnicalResourceLibrary/trl.htm

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            • #21
              Thanks

              Thanks Ray -- that answers my questions---- just cant belive they were allowed to get that way--
              Jack Ferguson
              1959 TBird hard top
              Regestry #19452

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              • #22
                The Stainless Steel '60 Tbirds

                I have added more information about the two 60 SS Tbirds, and an additional picture. You can find it all here:

                http://squarebirds.fortunecity.com/G...SteelTbird.htm

                Ray Clark - Squarebirds Administrator
                '59 Tbird "The Yellow Rose Of Texas" aka "Tweety Bird"
                "It's Hip To Be Square"
                Thunderbird Registry #33025 VTCI #11178

                Contact me via Private Message for my email address, or (Cell) 210-875-1411 (Home) 210-674-5781

                http://www.squarebirds.org/picture_gallery/TechnicalResourceLibrary/trl.htm

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                • #23
                  I noticed that the windshield wipers overlap, as the typical Squrebirds are tip to tip. Stainless Steel or not I still prefer paint. Thanks for digging up the info Ray & what's the latest on "Yellow Rose"?

                  Chris ....From the Land of OZ.

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                  • #24
                    The Stainless Steel '60 Tbirds

                    A new fuel pump was put on Rose over the weekend. The oil was flushed and changed and a new Mobile 1 filter put on. The temp. sending unit needs to be checked to see if it went. If so, a new one will go on. Then the Temp gauge needs to be calibrated. After that, she needs to be checked out, road tested and cleaned up. I might get her back later this week. Thanks for asking.

                    Ray Clark - Squarebirds Administrator
                    '59 Tbird "The Yellow Rose Of Texas" aka "Tweety Bird"
                    "It's Hip To Be Square"
                    Thunderbird Registry #33025 VTCI #11178

                    Contact me via Private Message for my email address, or (Cell) 210-875-1411 (Home) 210-674-5781

                    http://www.squarebirds.org/picture_gallery/TechnicalResourceLibrary/trl.htm

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                    • #25
                      It's just my opinion, but I wish the VTCI restorers would have left the stock valve covers & polished stainless steel Sunray wheel covers on that RARE Bird!

                      I can't beleive the damage to the right front fender either!!

                      -Jon
                      sigpic
                      The 1960 Ford Thunderbird. The WORLD'S most wanted car....

                      VTCI Member#6287.

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                      • #26
                        The Stainless Steel '60 Tbirds

                        Actually, the Gene Makrancy article says it was a member of the VTCA, (Vintage Tbird Club Of America) not the VTCI who did the restoration. However, after reading the history of the ITC (International Thunderbird Club) I found that VTCA was the original name of VTCI, but they changed it from VTCA to VTCI. So it appears that it was VTCA/VTCI members who did the restoration. As to why they made those changes, I have no clue!

                        Ray Clark - Squarebirds Administrator
                        '59 Tbird "The Yellow Rose Of Texas" aka "Tweety Bird"
                        "It's Hip To Be Square"
                        Thunderbird Registry #33025 VTCI #11178

                        Contact me via Private Message for my email address, or (Cell) 210-875-1411 (Home) 210-674-5781

                        http://www.squarebirds.org/picture_gallery/TechnicalResourceLibrary/trl.htm

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by tbird430;31208

                          [COLOR=#00bfff
                          I can't beleive the damage to the right front fender either!![/COLOR]

                          -Jon
                          Likewise.

                          What a magic car.
                          A Thunderbirder from the Land of the Long White Cloud.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by YellowRose View Post
                            I found that VTCA was the original name of VTCI, but they changed it from VTCA to VTCI. So it appears that it was VTCA/VTCI members who did the restoration. As to why they made those changes, I have no clue!
                            I was a member of VTCA (Vintage Thunderbird Club of America) before it became VTCI (Vintage Thunderbird Club International). The reason for the name change was to be inclusive of those of us who do not live in the USA. My window sticker and licence plate frames are VTCA!
                            sigpic "Old Betsy" - my '59 convertible J9YJ116209 Thunderbird Registry #33341

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                            • #29
                              Hey Guys,
                              I know it will never happen, but I would love to see one of us get this SS Thunderbird and get her back to her glory.
                              I least one of us would love her and take care of her.
                              THIS IS A SHAME!!!
                              THUNDERBIRDS FOREVER!!!
                              Richard D. Hord
                              sigpic'60 Thunderbird "Christine"
                              Registry #33436

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                              • #30
                                Ss T-bird

                                BEAUTIFUL LOOKING CAR!!!!

                                FYI - There is a Norcal VTCA club in northern California.

                                sal
                                Sal III

                                60 T BD

                                Thunderbird Registry # 33126 - VTCI # 11138- CTCI #02521

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