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  • is this engine a 430?

    hey all when i bought my 60 it came with an "extra" used long block but the guy cant remember what size it is i was told buy the guys over on y-blocksforever they think it is a 59 430 the only number i can find anywhere on the block are B9VE-B could someone tell me if this is a 430 and if possible tell me what family its from or maybe post a pic or two of a 430 block

    the guy i got it from told me it was either a 429 or a 460 said a friend of his had it in a boat and that a 460 aluminum intake bolted right to it no problems thanks for your help keith
    57 ford sedan
    60 thunderbird registry number 33404
    69 mustang coupe
    69 roadrunner

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    Keith perhaps someone else with a 430 can identify the casting numbers on the block B9VE-B On the main page there is a search button enter " engine size " push the button and all the threads / posts will come up regarding this topic. Scroll down to 430 engine and see the thread/posts of 10.29.05. Hope this helps.
    Dano Calgary,Alberta Canada
    Thunderbird Registry
    58HT #33317
    60 HT (Sold )

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    • #3
      Don't know about the casting numbers but does it look like this?
      Attached Files
      sigpic "Old Betsy" - my '59 convertible J9YJ116209 Thunderbird Registry #33341

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      • #4
        thanks for the replys guys ill check out that page of info

        howard actually i dont think it does i dont remember it haveing freezeout plugs above the trans flange it will get home this saturday and ill snap a few pics of it then
        57 ford sedan
        60 thunderbird registry number 33404
        69 mustang coupe
        69 roadrunner

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        • #5
          Hey Keith,
          All my Thunderbird shop manual says is: patent plate symbol for the engine should be J

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          • #6
            is the patent plate the same as a door plate or data plate? if so i dont have one this was just an engine laying in the guys barn has been out of the car for years
            57 ford sedan
            60 thunderbird registry number 33404
            69 mustang coupe
            69 roadrunner

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            • #7
              B9VE should be a 430, that is a Lincoln casting number and they only used the 430. I have a Merc 383 and it has a B9ME number which indicates they did not use the same casting as a 430. Hawkrod

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              • #8
                The earliest casting on a 429 or 460 would start with C8*****
                A Thunderbirder from the Land of the Long White Cloud.

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                • #9
                  ok thanks guys so is the 430 and a 460 the same engine family? and is a 430 worth messing around with ? i got this engine to possibly use it in my 57 ford sedan

                  are parts readilly availible for a 430?
                  57 ford sedan
                  60 thunderbird registry number 33404
                  69 mustang coupe
                  69 roadrunner

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by 57ford/60thunderbird View Post
                    ok thanks guys so is the 430 and a 460 the same engine family? and is a 430 worth messing around with ? i got this engine to possibly use it in my 57 ford sedan

                    are parts readilly availible for a 430?
                    NO!

                    Thet are TOTALLY different.

                    The C8** type number indicates they started building 640s in 1968 - long after 430s had gone the way of the dodo - hence parts for a 430 are not too easy to find..

                    Only the name is the same, I doubt if even the distributor cap interchanges between the 430 and 460.
                    A Thunderbirder from the Land of the Long White Cloud.

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                    • #11
                      Actually the distributor cap, points, and rotor do interchange between a 430 and a 460 but that is almost it! LOL Also note that the 430 was not a dinosaur when the 460 came out, it had been upsized in 1966 to 462 and the 460 replaced that in 1968. Hawkrod

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                      • #12
                        ok guys its been awhile since i made this post but i finnally got the extra engine tonight and while i had it out in the sunlight i rechecked the casting number and i made a mistake when i first wrote the number down the actuall number is C9VE-B and i took some pics of the engine and heads so now maybe someone can help me id this engine
                        here is the link
                        http://www.kodakgallery.com/ShareLan...localeid=en_US

                        i hope the link works
                        57 ford sedan
                        60 thunderbird registry number 33404
                        69 mustang coupe
                        69 roadrunner

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                        • #13
                          That,s either a 429 or 460. It.s out of something from 1969

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                          • #14
                            It has been a while since I messed around with the 385 series engines but I believe that the 429/460 blocks are the same with the exception of the crank and pistons. Check your crankshaft for the casting ID 4U. That would indicate a 429. I am not sure what a 460 would be. The heads are interchangeable between the two with the main difference of the combustion chamber volume. The 68 429 "Thunderjet" from a Thunderbird is the best as it came with small combustion chambers with an advertised 360 horse power with either 10.5-1 or 11-1 compression ratio. The 69 was down a little on compression as well as equiped with a thermactor system.
                            Dont shoot me if Im wrong....My memory is 47 years old!!!!

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                            • #15
                              Been lookin in some books and I think you have 69 lincoln 460. It sounds like V is for the lincoln line. Could be wrong. Just my feeble mind at work!

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