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  • 63 Bullet Bird stance

    Hello, I'm new here and need your help. My current project is to appraise a very nicely restored "driver-class" 1963 Thunderbird coupe. My issue is with its "stance". Though its suspension has been completely rebuilt, the car sits still with a decided rearward "rake" (i.e. rear visibly lower than its front). Is this as it should be (as it came from the factory)? Thanks for your informed responses.
    Jon W. Lundberg, Sr., ASA
    Accredited Senior Appraiser,
    American Society of Appraisers

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    I would say it's normal for Thunderbirds of that era to sit low in the back. I've had quite a few where the rear leaf spring shackles were turned around to raise the back end. Try getting one up on a flatbed tow truck without scraping the mufflers and you'll see just how low they sit. I guess that was part of the character. It was supposed to look like it was taking off.

    John
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    • #3
      John: Thank you. I am aware of your qualifications and really appreciate the timely response. Jon Lundberg
      Jon W. Lundberg, Sr., ASA
      Accredited Senior Appraiser,
      American Society of Appraisers

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      • #4
        Stance

        Hi Jon, any chance you can send in a photo. I had the '61 Bullet-Bird & just want to compare notes.

        Thanks

        Chris.....From OZ.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by DSRTDWELR View Post
          John: Thank you. I am aware of your qualifications and really appreciate the timely response. Jon Lundberg
          You're welcome Jon. Glad to have you aboard. We've had members in the past who were looking for someone to appraise a vehicle they were interested in buying. Hopefully your service can help our members out. I've had occasion to meet appraisers in the past and they seemed to know very little about the particular vehicle they were looking at. I see that Ray has already referred you to our checklist. Since every model of car has it's own trouble spots to look out for that should be of great use to you in appraising Thunderbirds.

          John
          John Pizzi - Squarebirds Administrator

          Thunderbird Registry #36223
          jopizz@verizon.net 856-779-9695

          http://www.squarebirds.org/picture_gallery/TechnicalResourceLibrary/trl.htm

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          • #6
            Ride Height

            At
            http://www.tbirdranch.com/6163concours.html
            original ride height for the 63 is shown as 27" front and 20 1/2" rear. My 61 with new springs and shocks sits higher, about 1 1/2" front and rear and has a definite "rake," the front being higher than the rear.

            I remember in the mid-1960's how some guys put spacers in the front coil springs to raise the front end of their cars. By the late 1960's it seemed to me that the style was to raise the rear. Myself, I prefer a more level stance or the front slightly raised.

            Good luck.

            Bill
            Last edited by bbogue; November 20th, 2015, 08:09 AM.

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            • #7
              Six and a half inch difference seems like a lot but you have to consider that the measurement is taken at the wheel opening and the front one is higher.

              I was one of those that put the spacers in the front coils of my 58 Chevy.

              I also like the front of the car looking a bit higher then the rear.

              Ron

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