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    I just finished replacing the headliner in my '60 SR but I'm having trouble installing the center headliner panel. I removed the two corner track pieces but it doesn't want to slide very easily into the bottom track without catching the vinyl. Does anyone have any tips to make it go smoother.

    Thanks,

    John
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  • #2
    Headliner Panel Installation

    Hi John,

    I just fired off an email to one person who can probably answer your question, Rockin Kev. He is often on the road, but hopefully, he will come on and answer your question if he can. He knows a lot about Golde Tops, and should know how to fix the problem you are having.

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    • #3
      John,
      First i would like to know if you have fitted back the thin plastic retainer that holds the headliner in place AROUND the sunroof opening in your roof?
      The centre panel should be glued to a thin metal bracket that fits all around the inside sliding! panel and then held in place by 4 small cross headed screws.
      PART of the sliding panel slides on that plastic retainer....before i go into more depth check this first!

      Kev.
      ON the road in his SEMI!! lol

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      • #4
        Headliner Panel Installation

        Thanks, Kev, for the quick reply! That is pretty cool, answering a post while tooling around England in your semi! Hopefully, your response will put John on the right track. Kev probably knows more about Golde Tops than many people around.

        Ray Clark - Squarebirds Administrator
        '59 Tbird "The Yellow Rose Of Texas" aka "Tweety Bird"
        "It's Hip To Be Square"
        Thunderbird Registry #33025 VTCI #11178

        Contact me via Private Message for my email address, or (Cell) 210-875-1411 (Home) 210-674-5781

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        • #5
          Kev,

          I don't have any plastic piece that goes around the opening. The original headliner was gone when I got the car. I did see Paul Wilson's original sunroof and I didn't see one on his either. It looks like the material is just wrapped around the edges and tucked under the tracks. Do you have a picture of what it looks like.

          I have the headliner material glued to the thin metal frame. I'm not sure about the 4 screws you mentioned. It has 6 push clips across the front. I didn't see the screws mentioned on the removal and installation instructions either.

          John
          Last edited by jopizz; May 29th, 2010, 06:41 PM.
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          • #6
            Headliner Panel Installation

            Kev emailed me and sent this pic clearly showing the plastic retainer. He also sent me this link to a web page that Alexander created some years ago. First the link, then the pic.

            http://www.squarebirds.org/1960ThunderbirdGallery/FrameSet.htm
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            Ray Clark - Squarebirds Administrator
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            "It's Hip To Be Square"
            Thunderbird Registry #33025 VTCI #11178

            Contact me via Private Message for my email address, or (Cell) 210-875-1411 (Home) 210-674-5781

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            • #7
              Thanks for sending those pictures along. Is that all one piece or made up of multiple pieces. I can probably make up something similar at least along the sides. Regardless, I don't think that's what's preventing me from getting the center panel in place.
              John Pizzi - Squarebirds Administrator

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              • #8
                John,
                The retainer is one part, the joint for the seal is just in front of the interior light.
                If you dont think its this then you need to adjust the height collars like we talked about before.
                Kev.

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                • #9
                  Kev,

                  I think we're getting a little off the subject here. The problem I'm having is installing the center panel into place per the instructions. It says to remove the corner track pieces and slide it over the front of the roof and into the bottom track. I tried that but it seems that you have to bend the panel excessively to do it. I was wondering if there was a better way or something I'm missing.

                  John
                  John Pizzi - Squarebirds Administrator

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                  • #10
                    Hey John, do you have any schematics to look at?

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                    • #11
                      Schematics? I'm not sure what you mean.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by jopizz View Post
                        Schematics? I'm not sure what you mean.
                        Schematics are blueprints: here is a brief excerpt of William Wonders Restoration guide for 1958-1960
                        a MUST buy...read through to page 54 and 55.... hope this helps!

                        http://books.google.com/books?id=bmy...page&q&f=false

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                        • #13
                          Thanks for the excerpt. I finally managed to get the panel in place with a lot of trial and error and a few choice words thrown in.
                          John Pizzi - Squarebirds Administrator

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                          jopizz@verizon.net 856-779-9695

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                          • #14
                            Headliner Panel Installation

                            John, congratulations on getting the headliner panel installed and working right! Glad to hear that!

                            Ray Clark - Squarebirds Administrator
                            '59 Tbird "The Yellow Rose Of Texas" aka "Tweety Bird"
                            "It's Hip To Be Square"
                            Thunderbird Registry #33025 VTCI #11178

                            Contact me via Private Message for my email address, or (Cell) 210-875-1411 (Home) 210-674-5781

                            http://www.squarebirds.org/picture_gallery/TechnicalResourceLibrary/trl.htm

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by jopizz View Post
                              Thanks for the excerpt. I finally managed to get the panel in place with a lot of trial and error and a few choice words thrown in.
                              Great! Funny how language helps, huh

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