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  • #16
    that's pretty much identical with what I got... Thanks for checking!

    So at this point I am going to phone the local auto parts stores and see if they have any spark plug wire sets (you assemble them yourself) made with cores from the older, lower resistance materials (not silcone), which one store manager tells me are available.

    john
    1958 Hardtop
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    • #17
      Resister wire

      Bart:
      I had to replace the resister wire along with a few others (10 years takes a tole on some things) the replacement wire was 6' long and reaches from the coil to the connector just at the fire wall with a few inches to spear.

      Now I guess it's just preference on what brand to use MSD or flame thrower. (gee may be a poll in in order here!

      Thanks for the info
      George (Papa of 9)
      1960 H/T :rolleyes:
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      • #18
        6 Foot long? Geez, I just assumed that all of those resistor wires were short guys. Learn something every day here. Good info.
        Bart
        1960 Hard Top/430
        Thunderbird Registry Number 1231

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        • #19
          John what points are you running with your MSD coil. Afraid of Pertronix but would like to power up thecoil.

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          • #20
            The resistor wire in my 60 is a plug in type with plugs at both ends it is stock and make that way for replacement purposes. Would not take much to unplug it from system and install a regular wire with plug type connection to facilitate a quick change over if you need to go back to regular system.

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            • #21
              Andy, I just have old fashioned contact points. $4 . I carry a spare, new set and polish them about once a summer.

              You indirectly bring up what I believe is an important point (no pun...): the collection of items - coil, ballast, points or solid state ignition, wire from key etc - must be matched up as a group.

              As far as I am concerned this means reading the manufacturers (Pentronix, MSD, Accel...) directions and even making email contact to double check.

              I say this for two reasons: 1) incompatible components may fail and 2) you may void the manufacturer's warranty in the process and waste decent money (and there is always 3) you end up walking )

              In my case, I read the MSD web site to make sure the coil I had was compatible with points and then I found a ballast resistor that was designed for the coil. This means I know the points will not have too much current but the coil will have what it was designed for.

              If I were going with a solid state ignition like Pentronix I would want to be additonally cautious as you can fry those solid state parts in the bat of an eyelash. With my points, if I toast those, well, $4 spent and back to the drawing board.

              In light of the discussion of this thread, I would finish up the job by finding out what plug wires would be most appropriate for the setup that I chose (modern silicon or older, lower resistance carbon or...)

              John
              1958 Hardtop
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              • #22
                Good Point

                John:
                Good point my next question was going to be about the plug wires, what are the best for these cars, I seem to be having nothing but problems with my #8 wire.

                So what would be most appropriate for the setup that I chose (modern silicon or older, lower resistance carbon or...) if I was to stay with the stock set up.
                George (Papa of 9)
                1960 H/T :rolleyes:
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                • #23
                  No aftermarket jippo junk!!! Motorcraft Non HEI!!
                  I'll post the part # tomorrow, Have to call my buddy at Allied Auto Parts and get it.
                  John Byers
                  1960 Convertible (Orig owner)
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                  • #24
                    Msd

                    John, I looked all through MSD catalog and only saw
                    a part number of 8200 for coil and 8214 for resistor did not see a 8002 coil or 8124 resistor

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                    • #25
                      I think one has to distinguish between MSD "kits" and individual items.

                      I have an 8202 coil and an 8214 ballast resistor. I got them separately. Looking at MSD's web site:

                      http://www.msdignition.com/coil_blas..._8202_8223.htm

                      I see those items but also see kits which include a coil and ballast together. 8200 and 8203 seem to be such kits with the difference being chrome or red paint on the coil.

                      You can purchase their products on-line:

                      http://www.shopatron.com/product/par...24.0.0.0.0.0.0

                      Gotta hunt up some plug wires next....

                      John

                      ps Such a kit is listed on Ebay currently at

                      http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MSD-8...QQcmdZViewItem

                      $49.95 from a guy in Kansas City, Kansas
                      Last edited by JohnG; August 12th, 2007, 09:20 PM. Reason: added MSD web information
                      1958 Hardtop
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                      • #26
                        Andy:

                        Do you remember where you located that resistor wire in your 60? Is yours on the left or right of the Steering wheel, about where?
                        Bart
                        1960 Hard Top/430
                        Thunderbird Registry Number 1231

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                        • #27
                          http://www.msdignition.com/coil_blas..._8202_8223.htm

                          I see those items but also see kits which include a coil and ballast together. 8200 and 8203 seem to be such kits with the difference being chrome or red paint on the coil.

                          You can purchase their products on-line:

                          http://www.shopatron.com/product/par...24.0.0.0.0.0.0

                          Gotta hunt up some plug wires next....

                          John

                          ps Such a kit is listed on Ebay currently at

                          http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MSD-8...QQcmdZViewItem

                          $49.95 from a guy in Kansas City, Kansas[/quote]

                          I found this at www.Kragen.com for $44.99 plus free pick up in store or have it shipped to your home! they are offering a $5.00 discount for Aug.
                          George (Papa of 9)
                          1960 H/T :rolleyes:
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                          http://www.tbirdregistry.com/viewdat...ryNumber=31811
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                          • #28
                            "bcomo" I'm in Wichita Falls. And yes it is HOT & HUMID up here now... LOL!!!
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by bcomo View Post
                              Andy:

                              Do you remember where you located that resistor wire in your 60? Is yours on the left or right of the Steering wheel, about where?
                              I found the plug part of the wire just under the master cylinder in that strand of wires leading to the coil that runs on the top side of the valve cover.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by JohnG View Post
                                I think one has to distinguish between MSD "kits" and individual items.

                                I have an 8202 coil and an 8214 ballast resistor. I got them separately. Looking at MSD's web site:

                                http://www.msdignition.com/coil_blas..._8202_8223.htm

                                I see those items but also see kits which include a coil and ballast together. 8200 and 8203 seem to be such kits with the difference being chrome or red paint on the coil.

                                You can purchase their products on-line:

                                http://www.shopatron.com/product/par...24.0.0.0.0.0.0

                                Gotta hunt up some plug wires next....

                                John

                                ps Such a kit is listed on Ebay currently at

                                http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MSD-8...QQcmdZViewItem

                                $49.95 from a guy in Kansas City, Kansas
                                Thank you Sir

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