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  • 430 water pump fiasco

    Hello,
    The water pump on my 60 J-bird had a loose bearing. No one will replace/rebuild these without a core. I didn't want to take the one off the car right away, so I bought a junky pump on Ebay for $35. I sent it out to a rebuilder (shall remain nameless) recommended on this site. The pump came back and after about 5 hours remove/replace all seemed OK - no leaks.

    However, after first test drive the temperature pegged the needle and by the time I made it home it was 235 per IR thermometer. Something definitely wrong!

    I had sent the original pump out to the same rebuilder and just put it in last night (another 5 hour remove/replace). I took the back off the questionable pump and found the impeller (plastic) was not secured to the shaft. No wonder it didn't cool.

    So now after running the latest pump - cooling is fine - never gets over about 170. But here's the worst - it is leaking at the back plate! No way to fix without taking it out again. The rebuilder is going to send me a new back plate gasket which should fix things, and agreed to redo this 1st pump for free. I am really PO'ed and not sure if I will take them up on it.

    Questions:
    Does anyone have a source for a good rebuilt MEL pump P/N B9SZ 8501-A, casting #5751588? (pic attached) Same part on 59-60 Lincoln.
    I'd like to buy one without a core if possible, or a recommendation for another rebuilder - maybe Lincolnland?

    Thanks,
    John
    John Orwin
    1960 HT 430
    VTCI #11290
    Tbird Registry #1590

  • #2
    I posted earlier on this topic before the rebuild. OX1 had some suggestions. Henry - I tried to PM you but it says you have too many messages in your mailbox. Could you PM me? I'd like to talk about your experiences with the 61+ Lincoln pumps on Ebay. Or anyone else who has tried them?

    John Orwin
    1960 HT 430
    VTCI #11290
    Tbird Registry #1590

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    • #3
      https://www.amazon.ca/Cardone-58-430.../dp/B000CIJ2CM
      this a cardone rebuilt pump on amazon in Canada. Out of stock though.
      As of last year Cardone was rebuilding these pumps

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      • #4
        It's been some years ago, but NAPA found one for me. I did have to send my original back in as a core.

        I started not too, but I figured SOMEONE else with a 430cid would need one later down the road...

        I do not remember the brand name of the rebuilder. As I said, this was over 10 yrs ago.
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