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    Hello all. It's been a while since my last project. I've been working on the birds airbag suspension all fall and in to the winter. Finally got it down...literally. It took some mild fabrication and shock mount relocating, but it's all done. Triangulated 4 link, panhard bar, and lower control arm tweaking.
    My next project over the rest of the winter envolves a header fitment to the bird. I contemplated a complete from header flange build...but now I'm thinking that there must be an FE header out there that "almost fits"...maybe one that i could cut and move a tube or 2. If anyone has come close with a header or certain "shorty header" "header kit"...please let me know. Maybe a Galaxy or truck header comes close...idk...Thank you.
    A Family that Hot Rods together, stays together...

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    Header project

    Hi, it's been a while since I've posted also but am always looking. I would be interested to see some pics of your 4 link install if you would be willing to show them. Also how you set up front air bags. As far as headers I have heard that FPA has headers that supposedly will fit our birds. I should be finding out probably later this year as I am having a friend of mine put together a 445 stroker for my 59 Bird.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Bird-in-the-bush View Post
      Triangulated 4 link, panhard bar, and lower control arm tweaking.
      I'm curious, if you are running a triangulated 4 link, why the panhard bar?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by RustyNCa View Post
        I'm curious, if you are running a triangulated 4 link, why the panhard bar?
        Why not? The more stability the better. Actually i opted to go with a parallel 4 link and decided to change my mind in the process.
        But...in my experience in dealing and installing triangulated 4 links, you still get some side to side sway and movement. The panhard eliminates all movement. But yes you would be correct in asking "why"
        Ill get some pictures posted as soon as i can.
        Didn't think the airbag suspension and 4 link would raise any eyebrows, so i didn't record to much of the work.
        As for FPA headers...i can't see dropping that kind of money on a set of headers from someone who basically has a monopoly on the design. I mean seriously, they're just a shorty style block hugger header. No need for that price tag.
        I believe I can design a decent flowing manifold/Header using flanges and some header tubes that will fit, but wow, is that passenger side close. Then the issue of steering on the driver side.
        A Family that Hot Rods together, stays together...

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        • #5
          I was just inquisitive, I'm running a bagged four link in my 29 coupe, but I'd never be able to tell if there was any lateral movement in it. The bais ply tires probably induce more lateral movement than I think I'd ever feel in the rear end...

          I know there is at least one other squarebird out there running a bagged four link, but I was never able to find photos of their fabwork on it. So yes, the idea is very intriguing to me. I'd be happy to check out photos of your bird, how she sits, etc. Sounds very cool to me.

          Do you run an anti roll bar on it as well?

          And I agree with you about the FPA headers, they are very spendy for what they are.

          I've had thoughts of changing out to a rack in the front and see if that would let me have room to run some modified headers for less money than the FPAs?

          Originally posted by Bird-in-the-bush View Post
          Why not? The more stability the better. Actually i opted to go with a parallel 4 link and decided to change my mind in the process.
          But...in my experience in dealing and installing triangulated 4 links, you still get some side to side sway and movement. The panhard eliminates all movement. But yes you would be correct in asking "why"
          Ill get some pictures posted as soon as i can.
          Didn't think the airbag suspension and 4 link would raise any eyebrows, so i didn't record to much of the work.
          As for FPA headers...i can't see dropping that kind of money on a set of headers from someone who basically has a monopoly on the design. I mean seriously, they're just a shorty style block hugger header. No need for that price tag.
          I believe I can design a decent flowing manifold/Header using flanges and some header tubes that will fit, but wow, is that passenger side close. Then the issue of steering on the driver side.

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          • #6
            Trying to post pictures, but no luck lol
            A Family that Hot Rods together, stays together...

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            • #7
              Header project 352

              Audie, I suggest you re-read the Welcome to Squarebirds post that John ~ jopizz posted to you when you joined the Forum last year. The information on how to post pix here, the size limitations, etc. are all in that post. You can post them on any free photo hosting website, send them to John, I, or Dave ~ simplyconnected, and we can post them for you. Or you can become a Paid Member and post them directly onto our Server. To donate to the Forum, go to the Donate to Site button in the upper right corner and do so through PayPal. It is $20 per year, and the funds go to help pay for server costs and keep us going. The payment will be to Lincolns Of Distinction (LOD) because we share the server with their Forum. But John Peters ~ driller to us here, will know that you are a Squarebirds member and not a LOD one...

              Here is the link to the Welcome that John posted to you last year. I see you read it last year. If you still cannot post pix, please give me a call at 210-875-1411.

              http://www.squarebirds.org/vbulletin...ad.php?t=21330

              Ray Clark - Squarebirds Administrator
              '59 Tbird "The Yellow Rose Of Texas" aka "Tweety Bird"
              "It's Hip To Be Square"
              Thunderbird Registry #33025 VTCI #11178

              Contact me via Private Message for my email address, or (Cell) 210-875-1411 (Home) 210-674-5781

              http://www.squarebirds.org/picture_gallery/TechnicalResourceLibrary/trl.htm

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              • #8
                Ya i guess that would help if i renew my membership lol! Thanks for the input.
                A Family that Hot Rods together, stays together...

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                • #9
                  Header project 352

                  Audie, somehow I missed that you were already a Paid Member when I posted that. Your paid membership is not up until next month. So you should certainly be able to post directly to the server. If you can't or need a refresher course on how to do it, call me and I can quickly walk you through it.

                  Ray Clark - Squarebirds Administrator
                  '59 Tbird "The Yellow Rose Of Texas" aka "Tweety Bird"
                  "It's Hip To Be Square"
                  Thunderbird Registry #33025 VTCI #11178

                  Contact me via Private Message for my email address, or (Cell) 210-875-1411 (Home) 210-674-5781

                  http://www.squarebirds.org/picture_gallery/TechnicalResourceLibrary/trl.htm

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