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  • #16
    Thanks for the suggestions, if I can get myself into the garage before spring I'll give them a try.

    As far as replacing the brushes, since the Rockauto rebuilt starter is only $30 after the core charge, it doesn't seem worth it. I'll jsut replace it, assuming that's what it is.
    DGS (aka salguod)
    1960 Convertible - Raven Black, Red leather
    www.salguod.net

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    • #17
      Add a Ground also. One from the engine to the Firewall.
      Old grounds get corroded and wont make a good contact.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by dgs View Post
        Thanks for the suggestions, if I can get myself into the garage before spring I'll give them a try.

        As far as replacing the brushes, since the Rockauto rebuilt starter is only $30 after the core charge, it doesn't seem worth it. I'll jsut replace it, assuming that's what it is.
        I'd be careful with bottom dollar rebuilt parts,
        unless it is really easy to swap out.
        59-430-HT

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        • #19
          Originally posted by dgs View Post
          ...As far as replacing the brushes, since the Rockauto rebuilt starter is only $30 after the core charge, it doesn't seem worth it. I'll jsut replace it, assuming that's what it is.
          Doug, be mindful that rebuild shops only guarantee their product for a short time.

          Starter brushes, even when new, are short. So, as long as used brushes have 'some' life left, rebuild shops will save themselves eight bucks and re-use old brushes. Starter motor brushes are NOT carbon. They are carbon-impregnated bronze; short enough to keep resistance low, the carbon acts as a commutator lubricant and the bronze will hold up under high heat from high current.

          When you receive your starter motor, open the inspection plate and LOOK. Pull up on the brushes' pigtails with a hook:



          Feel how free they travel in the holders and notice how long each one is. OR, you can shake dice and simply trust that $30 will work well past the warranty period. Save your receipt and Good luck. - Dave
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          • #20
            At Rock Auto the same 12 month warranty applies to the rebuilt and the new. I suspect no one else has a longer warranty. Of course, that doesn't mean that I want to swap it out twice.
            DGS (aka salguod)
            1960 Convertible - Raven Black, Red leather
            www.salguod.net

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            • #21
              I think Cardone is the only company left that rebuilds for the larger auto parts retailers. I usually don't have a problem with their rebuilt parts.

              John
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              • #22
                The Rock Auto part is branded "Pure Energy", not sure who that is. I don't imagine many companies are rebuilding these old parts.
                DGS (aka salguod)
                1960 Convertible - Raven Black, Red leather
                www.salguod.net

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                • #23
                  So I'm finally getting around to replacing this starter (life has gotten in the way until now) and I can't get the starter out. I've gotten all the bolts off and the starter pulls away from the engine a little (1/2"-3/4"), but it won't come out. I've twisted and turned and pulled on it to no avail.

                  Is there a trick to removing this thing?

                  Also, because I'm a fool and like to fiddle with things, I turned the bendix on the new one and it's now locked in the engaged position. Is that going to cause me issues with getting it in place?
                  DGS (aka salguod)
                  1960 Convertible - Raven Black, Red leather
                  www.salguod.net

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                  • #24
                    Sorry, there's no trick to it. You may have to turn the wheel all the way right or left to get it to clear the steering rack but there's no other shortcuts to get it out. As for the new one you can put it on the battery and see if it disengages or put it in the way it is. I've done both.

                    John
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                    • #25
                      I got it. I had to twist and pull and wiggle and pull and use a pry bar and pull but it eventually came loose from the engine. Wiggling it out from there required a few more gymnastics and, yes, turning the wheel all the way left.

                      I simply installed the new without any trouble from it being in the engaged position. It wasn't easy to get all the bolts started but it's done.

                      Unfortunately, since it's been sitting for nearly a year, the battery, though new last summer, didn't have enough charge to crank it long enough to start. Well, it actually did start, but wouldn't stay running and then the battery went dead. Hopefully I can get it going later tonight or tomorrow. I think this is the latest "first start of the season" since I've owned it.
                      DGS (aka salguod)
                      1960 Convertible - Raven Black, Red leather
                      www.salguod.net

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