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    i want to do an alternator conversion on my 1960 352 but cant figure out what C.R.A.P bracket i need... i have read that if the block has an extra hole that i need a certain one and that if it doesn't then its a different one ...im looking to install a 3 wire, 100+ amp ford alt.. what would be a good donor?..I have read like a 94 mustang or tbird...........by the way all that oil is tranny fluid from when i took the car out for a spin and the tranny hose to the radiator slipped out and made a mess....good thing i was parked when it happened and also a good reminder that when you buy a car from someone to make sure everything is bolted and tightened up right...especially if the car had been taken apart...
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    Your 352 does not have the hole for the alternator so you need item #92264.

    John
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    • #3
      ok thanks...do you know what's a good alt to use?

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      • #4
        I would contact C.R.A.P and ask what alternators will fit their brackets. I know a 1G, 2G and some 3G's should fit. Remember if you get a later model alternator you will have to change out the pulley.

        John
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        • #5
          ok, will do ....thanks

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          • #6
            Small case 3g
            Grant
            NCbird on the Coast of NC
            "Dads Bird" for my father

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            • #7
              I purchased the Crap bracket and used a alternator out of a 1996 Ford thunderbird. The alternator is a 3G and can support 130amps. Alternator was $90.00 off of ebay and the CRAP bracket was 160 I believe.

              Great fitment and the alternator work PERFECTLY.

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              • #8
                Dan, can you take some pictures of your setup? Send them to simplyconnected@aol.com and I'll post them for you. - Dave
                My latest project:
                CLICK HERE to see my custom hydraulic roller 390 FE build.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by simplyconnected View Post
                  Dan, can you take some pictures of your setup? Send them to simplyconnected@aol.com and I'll post them for you. - Dave
                  I would also like to know (for future reference) what pulleys he used or didn't. What belts were used?
                  Dave, you should write a book, Auto Electric's for those of you who know enough to be Dangerous.
                  Eric
                  Yellow98Cobra
                  1960 Thunderbird HT
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Dan.loeb View Post
                    I purchased the Crap bracket and used a alternator out of a 1996 Ford thunderbird. The alternator is a 3G and can support 130amps. Alternator was $90.00 off of ebay and the CRAP bracket was 160 I believe.

                    Great fitment and the alternator work PERFECTLY.
                    Does yours hold under a full load? I am running a 130amp alternator with a CRAP bracket. Mine currently has one belt, and I cannot get it to stop slipping under load.

                    So, I have picked up a dual pulley for the alternator and a triple for the balancer so I can run two belts to the alternator, I just have't gotten around to swapping it all in.

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                    • #11
                      thanks for the info guys...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by RustyNCa View Post

                        So, I have picked up a dual pulley for the alternator and a triple for the balancer so I can run two belts to the alternator, I just have't gotten around to swapping it all in.
                        What pulley are you going to use for the water pump.

                        John
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by jopizz View Post
                          What pulley are you going to use for the water pump.

                          John
                          That's a good question, I don't remember if I got a pulley for that as well. It's been probably four years since I started down this road, then I got distracted with a new wife, new baby, new hotrod, new house.... I guess I'm finally getting back on track with the poor old bird.

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                          • #14
                            You probably need one from an A/C car. I believe that had dual belts for the generator.

                            John
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                            • #15
                              Eric, I would show pictures of my 3G 130-amp but it's on my Y-Block. That wouldn't do much good for you guys with FE engines.

                              The Woodward Dream Cruise is an all day (actually all week) affair in bumper to bumper, stop and go traffic. That 130 pushes the electric fan, on and off, all day long with no overheating and the battery is always full.

                              I also use an oversized pulley from an old Chevy generator (yes, generator). It is slightly larger than the original Ford generator pulley but just big enough to keep my belt from slipping. - Dave

                              Originally posted by yellow98cobra View Post
                              I would also like to know (for future reference) what pulleys he used or didn't. What belts were used?
                              Dave, you should write a book, Auto Electric's for those of you who know enough to be Dangerous.
                              Eric
                              My latest project:
                              CLICK HERE to see my custom hydraulic roller 390 FE build.

                              "We've got to pause and ask ourselves: How much clean air do we need?"
                              --Lee Iacocca

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