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  • #16
    Gotcha.

    So the motor spins like a champ on the battery. Nothing at the switch.
    Is this the culprit? Or do I need repair the switches?
    Heres the TRL fuse I was reading about.
    I have power at both ends.





    Originally posted by Tbird1044 View Post
    Kevin:
    I forgot to mention, that if you decide to take the window motors apart, make sure you clean the shaft that connects to the coupling, really well. If there is any rust or corrosion on the shaft, you will do damage to the internals when you try to split the motor housings.
    There are some great pictures and information on the window motors in the TRL. There are also 2 different style motors used in our cars.
    Nyles

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    • #17
      Is it just one window that doesn't work or all of them. If it's just one then it's the motor, wiring, circuit breaker or the switch. It could only be the window relay if none of them worked.

      John
      John Pizzi - Squarebirds Administrator

      Thunderbird Registry #36223
      jopizz@verizon.net 856-779-9695

      http://www.squarebirds.org/picture_gallery/TechnicalResourceLibrary/trl.htm

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      • #18
        Originally posted by jopizz View Post
        Is it just one window that doesn't work or all of them. If it's just one then it's the motor, wiring, circuit breaker or the switch. It could only be the window relay if none of them worked.

        John
        Hey John, I only heard a click from the fronts. Bench Test on the motor itself is good. Plugged in the car is no action. I wasn't aware of a relay besides the picture I posted below....?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by jopizz View Post
          Is it just one window that doesn't work or all of them. If it's just one then it's the motor, wiring, circuit breaker or the switch.
          I only have 2 switches of the 4. I tried them in the others. and no action. I have nothing from any window.

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          • #20
            Kevin's 59 t-bird restoration. Aka "angry bird"

            Kevin, I THINK that relay is on the engine firewall, to the left side of the black AC cover IF your car has AC. It would be on the passenger side, if I have the right relay in mind. jopizz or simplyconnected, or one of the other guys can correct this if I have it wrong..

            Check this thread out. It might help.

            http://www.squarebirds.org/vbulletin...t=window+relay

            Here is another one that might help.

            http://www.squarebirds.org/vbulletin...t=window+relay

            Ray Clark - Squarebirds Administrator
            '59 Tbird "The Yellow Rose Of Texas" aka "Tweety Bird"
            "It's Hip To Be Square"
            Thunderbird Registry #33025 VTCI #11178

            Contact me via Private Message for my email address, or (Cell) 210-875-1411 (Home) 210-674-5781

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            • #21
              Originally posted by YellowRose View Post
              Kevin, I THINK that relay is on the engine firewall, to the left side of the black AC cover IF your car has AC. It would be on the passenger side, if I have the right relay in mind. jopizz or simplyconnected, or one of the other guys can correct this if I have it wrong..
              I hope it's the picture I posted! I am starting to thing it's a bad ground at the switch, or along those lines.

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              • #22
                Kevin's 59 t-bird restoration. Aka "angry bird"

                I just added two additional threads in my previous post to check out that might help. I think your pic is the window relay on the engine firewall, from the looks of it. The pix you see in my post is the window relay and there are some explanations regarding it in the links I just posted that might help you.

                Ray Clark - Squarebirds Administrator
                '59 Tbird "The Yellow Rose Of Texas" aka "Tweety Bird"
                "It's Hip To Be Square"
                Thunderbird Registry #33025 VTCI #11178

                Contact me via Private Message for my email address, or (Cell) 210-875-1411 (Home) 210-674-5781

                http://www.squarebirds.org/picture_gallery/TechnicalResourceLibrary/trl.htm

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                • #23
                  The picture you posted shows the circuit breaker for the power seat and the window relay is behind it. Test for power on the thick red/blue wire on the right with the key on. If you have power then the relay is good.

                  John
                  John Pizzi - Squarebirds Administrator

                  Thunderbird Registry #36223
                  jopizz@verizon.net 856-779-9695

                  http://www.squarebirds.org/picture_gallery/TechnicalResourceLibrary/trl.htm

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                  • #24
                    I have found a lot of bad contacts inside the window and seat switches. Most of the time, I can take the switch apart and clean the contacts. The p/w switch is kind of unique in how they distribute the 12v power to all 4 switches. I remember some kind of jumper between the individual switches. If you do have 12v going the switch connector, then the relay is okay. Try cleaning the contacts in the switch. Another thing to check is the circuit breaker at the window motors. There should be one at each motor that is connected to the ground terminal of the motor and the other side grounded to the chassis. Good luck.
                    Nyles

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