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  • #76
    Originally posted by simplyconnected View Post
    I had a bear of a time getting the can off this '73 390 FP. The setup looks almost identical to your picture. Finally, I used a small oil filter wrench and a long bar. As the pic shows, the canister butts up against the rubber seal. Only God knows how long mine was on there (probably original).

    The wife's Escape uses a small oil filter, and I happen to have a small filter wrench. Even then, I wrapped a rubber 'mat' around the canister twice before pulling on the wrench. To my amazement, nothing dented or misformed.

    Rockauto.com sells those cartridge filters and they come with new gaskets (one on the end of the filter element, and the big rubberband for the canister).

    Lubrication will be tricky as the threads are always exposed to gasoline. I was just happy to get the **** thing loose.

    Yep, that's a new gasket inside the timing cover, siliconed on both sides ready and waiting for me.

    I hope the pics help. I'm a little ahead of myself because these new pictures aren't posted on Penelope's 390 Build yet. - Dave
    Thanks for the sneak peak!
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    58HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37043 (Sold)

    60HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37252 "Lucille" (Sold)

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    • #77
      There may be some kind of lubricant that could be put on those threads to make it easier to get off and on when it is installed . OK so now it's Dave's turn cause I dunno what that would be.
      My neighbor was a mechanic on industrial equipment (also drag raced Fords in the 60's) and told me to just use a very light coating of grease on the threads. If gas gets to it the grease will only disolve and eventually wash through the carb with no problems. What doesn't get washed away will keep the threads from binding.

      Its his story, but I did it and had no problem removing the can after a couple of years.

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      • #78
        In post #65, there are pictures of the original style two stage fuel pump and the replacement single stage pump. I can't help but notice the pump arm that contacts with the cam eccentric is at least shaped different on the two pumps. Are these pumps interchangeable and is there a reason for the change in arm configuration?
        Ken
        1959 J Convertible
        1960 J Hardtop

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        • #79
          Originally posted by GTE427 View Post
          In post #65, there are pictures of the original style two stage fuel pump and the replacement single stage pump. I can't help but notice the pump arm that contacts with the cam eccentric is at least shaped different on the two pumps. Are these pumps interchangeable and is there a reason for the change in arm configuration?
          Ken, you have hawk eyes! I noticed the same thing when I compared the two pumps side-by-side. The pump arms are shaped a little different and if I recall correctly, when I eyeballed the two, the new pumpís arm appeared to be slightly shorter than the old pump. Iíll see if I can get a side-by-side shot comparing the two as well as some measurements. The pump is made by: CARTER Part #M4008 and was purchased through Rock Auto.


          Below is the link to the pump on Rock Autoís website:

          http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=2959
          VTCI# 11860
          58HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37043 (Sold)

          60HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37252 "Lucille" (Sold)

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          • #80
            Finished painting all four wheel wells, as well as completing the fuel system. I put five gallons of fuel in her and she started right up.





            Unfortunately, when it came time for the test drive, the brakes decided to quit on me. Glad it happened in the driveway, than on the road.
            VTCI# 11860
            58HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37043 (Sold)

            60HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37252 "Lucille" (Sold)

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            • #81
              Thank God it happened there, in the safety of your driveway!

              I know this car is an 'unknown' to you and you are a fairly recent owner. Whenever I deal with unknown 50 yr-old parts I treat them as if the parts are already shot. Get into the brake cylinders and inspect the bores by feel. If the bleeder valves are stuck, broken or the bores are worn, buy new cylinders. If they look ok, aggressivly pull on the rubber cups. If they tear, rebuild kits are cheap. If you need a lubricant use brake fluid, never use petroleum products on your brake system. - Dave
              My latest project:
              CLICK HERE to see my custom hydraulic roller 390 FE build.

              "We've got to pause and ask ourselves: How much clean air do we need?"
              --Lee Iacocca

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              • #82
                Almost ready to do a complete overhaul and disc brake conversion.

                VTCI# 11860
                58HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37043 (Sold)

                60HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37252 "Lucille" (Sold)

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                • #83
                  NYsquarebird58í (NEW) Tbird

                  Hi Marcelo! Boy, that looks familiar! That is about what my couch looked like in the den for awhile, til the conversion started! Don't throw any boxes away until you are completely done. I did and when I had to order some replacement parts because of a defect in them, I did not have the original box it came in so I had to do some digging for the paperwork. I hope the conversion goes very well for you. Good luck with it.

                  Ray Clark - Squarebirds Administrator
                  '59 Tbird "The Yellow Rose Of Texas" aka "Tweety Bird"
                  "It's Hip To Be Square"
                  Thunderbird Registry #33025 VTCI #11178

                  Contact me via Private Message for my email address, or (Cell) 210-875-1411 (Home) 210-674-5781

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by YellowRose View Post
                    Hi Marcelo! Boy, that looks familiar! That is about what my couch looked like in the den for awhile, til the conversion started! Don't throw any boxes away until you are completely done. I did and when I had to order some replacement parts because of a defect in them, I did not have the original box it came in so I had to do some digging for the paperwork. I hope the conversion goes very well for you. Good luck with it.
                    Thanks, Ray. It was your build that inspired me. Thanks for taking the time to post a detailed parts list in the Members section. Question: where did you get your proportioning valve bracket that mounts to the master cylinder?
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                    58HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37043 (Sold)

                    60HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37252 "Lucille" (Sold)

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                    • #85
                      NYsquarebird58í (NEW) Tbird

                      Hi Marcelo,

                      When Howard Prout made his, he also made one for me. I might have the drawing for it. Let me look and see. Nope, I could not find the design for it. You might have to contact Howard for that information. I will send you his email address in a PM.

                      Ray Clark - Squarebirds Administrator
                      '59 Tbird "The Yellow Rose Of Texas" aka "Tweety Bird"
                      "It's Hip To Be Square"
                      Thunderbird Registry #33025 VTCI #11178

                      Contact me via Private Message for my email address, or (Cell) 210-875-1411 (Home) 210-674-5781

                      http://www.squarebirds.org/picture_gallery/TechnicalResourceLibrary/trl.htm

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                      • #86
                        Marcelo,

                        I haven't had a chance to keep up as much as I would like and didn't see this info scanning back through the post - but just a couple of things. Are you planning on using your original booster or one modified by Dewy? I found a plumbing seal that works between the booster and master cyl to keep the dust and water out of the booster - should make it last longer. I'll have to look up the number if you need it.

                        I had my prop. valve on the bottom of the master cyl initially but there just didn't seem to be enough threads on the booster stud to hold the master cyl and prop valve bracket. Found a threaded hole in the frame below the booster and installed a stud - moved the prop valve there (that's why the lines look so bad - had already plumbed them below the master cyl). Since it worked I didn't change the lines - figured I would get back to them one day...

                        Seemed the valve was pretty close to the manifold too so I think it was a bonus moving it down there.

                        Just an idea....

                        Eric
                        registry 5347

                        This was before I installed the extender bracket for the A/C


                        I used the original T for the brake light switch and extended the wires down to the switch. I ran new individual lines to the fronts.

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                        • #87
                          Eric,

                          I'm using a Wysco dual 8" booster I got from "Old Irish Dave"

                          I just realized that I don't have enough threads left over to mount a bracket on to my booster like how Ray has it, so I think I'll mount it on my fender apron. It should be easier to work on there.

                          Here's my booster/MC setup.
                          VTCI# 11860
                          58HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37043 (Sold)

                          60HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37252 "Lucille" (Sold)

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by DKheld View Post
                            Marcelo,

                            I used the original T for the brake light switch and extended the wires down to the switch. I ran new individual lines to the fronts.
                            Is the exhaust as close to those brake lines as it looks??
                            A Thunderbirder from the Land of the Long White Cloud.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by NYsquarebird58 View Post
                              Thanks, Ray. It was your build that inspired me. Thanks for taking the time to post a detailed parts list in the Members section. Question: where did you get your proportioning valve bracket that mounts to the master cylinder?
                              You can get the prop valve brackets on eBay. They have chrome ones that are not too expensive. There are two types under MC mount or side mount.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by scumdog View Post
                                Is the exhaust as close to those brake lines as it looks??
                                Optical illusion - although there is not a ton of room in that area for running lines they are actually about half way between the manifold and exhaust pipe - about 6 inches clearance. There was better clearance in that area then when I had the prop. valve mounted under the master cyl. - only about 3 inches clearance there.

                                Thanks for keeping a sharp eye out to make sure I'm safe.....

                                Nice looking set-up Marcelo!

                                Eric

                                Would have been better to get a master cyl with the outlets on the fender side but when I was first putting it all together this was the one I found for installing the prop. valve under the master. After I changed everything I already had fluid in the master so just decided to go with it until it fails then I might change it.

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