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60 T-Bird
07-12-2010, 02:37 AM
Looking into complete overhaul kits on the Internet. EGGE was one suggestion from an engine builder I have been talking to. There price is around $1800. Another is Mad Dog racing out of Florida and cost $1140. Anyone know the quality of these or any other companies offering rebuild kits?

simplyconnected
07-12-2010, 03:05 AM
Kanter Auto Products (http://kanter.com) has them too. The basic kit costs $1,100 (item #089749G).

I suggest you get with a GOOD engine machine shop, and decide how far you will bore and hone your cylinders.

After you order and get delivery of your new pistons, the machine shop needs their diameter to do the actual boring and honing.

You can find good stuff on eBay, like true roller timing chains and Clevite 77 bearings. I suggest you pop for moly rings. All the new engines use them. That's one reason why modern engines last so long.

Head machining is a must. I had my exhaust valves machined and fitted with hardened seats, and I had the stem towers machined for viton seals. The hardened seats will allow safe use of unleaded gas, and the viton seals work a whole lot better than those umbrella seals (that harden and fail). - Dave

KULTULZ
07-12-2010, 05:21 AM
Be aware that these kits do not offer pistons with the correct dome shape. Only EGGE 462 pistons are correct. Their 430 piston(s) are not correct.

KULTULZ
07-12-2010, 09:55 AM
Be aware that these kits do not offer pistons with the correct dome shape. Only EGGE 462 pistons are correct. Their 430 piston(s) are not correct.

Here is a thread from The LINC FORUM that details slightly the MEL COMBUSTION CHAMBER DESIGN and the need for the correct piston domes. The dome shape(s) actually make the combustion chamber as the MEL has flat cylinder heads (except for 63/65 4V).

- http://www.thelincolnforum.net/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=27355&p=190012&hilit=MEL+combustion+chamber#p190012

Also shown will be EGGE replacement pistons that are not correct.

60 T-Bird
07-12-2010, 06:53 PM
Thanx for the input. Called Egge today and the Tech guy said the piston issue is way over rated. There may be a slight loss in hp. He also stated that he has had returns of at least once a year with pre-detonation damage from the wedge types. Guess the gas id not what it was in 1960.
I will look into Kanter also.

KULTULZ
07-12-2010, 08:41 PM
Thanx for the input.

Called Egge today and the Tech guy said the piston issue is way over rated.

That is because he doesn't offer the correct piston and does not want to lose the sale (refer to correct cam gear post and EGGE is there too).

There may be a slight loss in hp. He also stated that he has had returns of at least once a year with pre-detonation damage from the wedge types. Guess the gas id not what it was in 1960.

I will look into Kanter also.

There is no waranty on detonation damaged pistons. That is the fault of the engine builder.

I will get you guys a correct source tomorrow.

KULTULZ
07-13-2010, 01:18 AM
I had already posted it-

http://www.squarebirds.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=9075

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