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joe1946
07-31-2008, 11:03 AM
I'm in need of a new/rebuilt steering box for my 69 Fairlane. I've heard that Mustang and Fairlane were pretty much interchangable. I can't seem to find a source for a Fairlane box. I was wondering if I should start looking for a Mustang box. Any Ideas would be welcome.
Thanks.
Joe

tbirds8
07-31-2008, 07:36 PM
Can't you rebuild It? I've done a couple in my day and if the gears aren't chiped you just have to find a kit. NAPA is were I used to buy everything and I mean EVERTHING.

joe1946
07-31-2008, 09:00 PM
NAPA shows nothing, I mean nothing on their computer. No box, no kit , no reference. Dead end. At the least I was hoping for a kit to rebuild. It looks like I'm going to have to go for a used item, just something I don't want to do.
Thanks for the input.
Joe

bcomo
08-01-2008, 01:33 AM
How about this one on E-Bay?

66 67 68 69 70 71 FAIRLANE TORINO STEERING BOX (REBUILT) Item number: 300246179393

joe1946
08-01-2008, 09:19 AM
Bart, Good eye, I would have never found that one. I can get basically the same deal with Mac's. They will rebuild mine for anywhere between $189 to $379 and take 3-5 weeks to do it.
I've found a guy in Texas that sounds much more reasonable. All I've got to do is figure out how to get it out of the car.
I'm trying to do this as cheap as I can, I've got way too much cash in this car already(unlike the 60 Bird that hasn't had any major problems yet).
Thanks for the help.
Joe

bcomo
08-01-2008, 11:16 AM
Joe:

Can you tell me who that was in Texas. I live in Texas, so it would be good for me to know.

Thanks

tbird430
08-01-2008, 11:44 AM
Try out these guys, they have T-Bird rebuilt steering boxes that are reasonable. :)

http://www.abspowerbrake.com/

joe1946
08-02-2008, 05:23 PM
Bart, His name is Randle Meyer. His site is strangerssite.com. His address is:
Precision Products
24165 IH-10 West
Suite 217-282
San Antonio, TX 78257-1159
His site pretty much explains what he does and he's the least expensive guy that I've found so far. He says he's right out straight and working 7 days a week now with a two week back log. He's been very easy to deal with so far. I'll know more when I can get the box down to him and when I see it come back.
Joe

bcomo
08-02-2008, 06:20 PM
Thanks Joe. Looks like they are right here in my town.

Let me know how the rebuild goes.

joe1946
08-03-2008, 07:32 PM
Does anyone have a detailed description on how the steering box comes out?? My mechanic offered to come over to my place and help me do it but I don't want to think what it's gonna cost.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I'm not going to say how much more responsive this site is compared to the Fairlane site.
You guys are the best.
Thanks.
Joe

YellowRose
08-03-2008, 07:50 PM
Hi Joe!

I hope one of our more technical guys comes wandering by quickly and can answer your question. If I were to try and tell you, you would probably be taking off your glove box instead! :D We have some really sharp guys here who know their stuff. Since it is the weekend, a lot of them are either burning up the road with their TBirds (especially those in the North who had them cooped up in their nests all winter) or are working on them. Since our Squarebirds are kissing cuzzins to your car, they should be similar in taking that box off. Hopefully, someone will come along soon and tell ya how to do it! Thanks for the compliment. :p We have a great bunch of guys here, across the world.

joe1946
08-04-2008, 08:02 AM
Would the Fairlane be close enough to the square bird so my Bird manual woud give me a pretty good idea on how it came out?
Thanks.
Joe

joe1946
08-11-2008, 04:47 PM
Hi All,
I found a steering box through Advanced Auto. The only problem is it's manual steering. I'm hoping I can change over to manual from the power assist. Has anyone ever done this or have any reason why it can't be done? Different Pitman arm or antthing like that?
Thanks.
Joe

joe1946
08-28-2008, 08:07 AM
The ongoing saga of power assist steering. I didn't rebuild, we found a rebuilt box and it helped the steering a lot. On main roads it feels fine but on back roads it feels strange like it wants to jump side to side. We've rebuilt the power assist cylinder and can't figure out what else to fix/replace in the system. The only thing left is the center link. I could change that and make it manual steering. Any ideas out there?
Thanks.
Joe

KULTULZ
08-28-2008, 01:05 PM
If you went with a manual box on power assist car, you will need to change everything over to manual linkage. The PS valve and cyl are going to give you fits.

There was a changeover piece that replaces the control valve for a cheap changeover, but I would try and do it correctly. Save the PS system and put it on EvilBay if you do not want it.

joe1946
08-28-2008, 08:49 PM
That's just what I'm trying to do. I think all I need now is the manual center link and I'm home free. Any ideas for a source??
Thanks.
Joe

joe1946
08-29-2008, 10:47 AM
KULTULZ, I've got to assume there is a big difference between boxes?? I'm going to save the power assist for someone else to screw with. I'm in too far on this one but have to keep going. I sure hope the demand for 68/69 Fairlanes goes up.
Joe

KULTULZ
08-29-2008, 02:33 PM
KULTULZ, I've got to assume there is a big difference between boxes??

Usually ratio. Let me see what I can find as for a drag link.

joe1946
08-29-2008, 09:27 PM
I've found one part number for the drag link, power or manual. The only real difference that we can find so far is the steering ratio but how much different I can't figure out. Anyway I've ordered a new center link, it's listed under rare parts. I saw the conversion you had mentioned and decided to keep the power assist complete for the next guy.
Thanks for the help.
Joe

KULTULZ
08-30-2008, 04:26 AM
Listen, there are two drag links, one for manual and one for power assist. Same for the pitman and idler arm. This is why that conversion piece is so popular.

The box ratio is not given in the parts catalog. It will be found in the Shop Manual for that year.

Let me give you a reference for your car-

http://www.woodyg.com/fairlane/

Let us know how you come out.

joe1946
08-30-2008, 08:13 AM
Thank you very much. And I thought this was going to be easy. I've Emailed Woody to see if he can straighten me out on what I need and where to find it. Boy, am I upside down in this car now. Sound slightly familiar???
Thanks again.
Joe

KULTULZ
08-30-2008, 08:17 AM
Yes, it sounds very familiar. Us old guys were young once too and there wasn't all the info out there like there is today.

GOOD LUCK WITH IT!

You will find everything you need for it, don't worry.

Gary

joe1946
08-30-2008, 08:28 PM
I'm not young any more either. I stumped Woodie and he sent me on to other sites. I'm sure the parts are out there, it's down to whether or not I can afford them. I think it's time to take the Bird out for a cruise just to relax.
Thanks again. You guys are the best.
Joe

KULTULZ
08-31-2008, 12:20 AM
I stumped Woodie and he sent me on to other sites.

Hmmph.

Let me know how you do. if no luck I will try to find everything.

joe1946
09-01-2008, 06:37 PM
I started to look at all the parts that need to be changed over and got into the "Rare" listing. I'm going to try and cancel my order on the center link and order the conversion kit. The bank has almost closed on this old girl. I'm at the point where I'll have more in her than she will ever be worth. If I can get her to drive down the road correctly it might be time to bite the bullet and recoupe what ever I can and walk away. It would have cost well over $600 to get all the parts not to mention what it would cost to get them installed. Social security only goes so far. I'll stick to the 60 Bird. She's been good to me.
Thanks for the help, I really appreciate it.
I'm finding it really strange to see the difference between sites. Squarebirds and a Mustang site have been most helpful. I'm not going to mention what I think about the Fairlane site. A serious difference.
Thanks again.
Joe

KULTULZ
09-02-2008, 04:08 AM
I'm finding it really strange to see the difference between sites.
Squarebirds and a Mustang site have been most helpful. I'm not going to mention what I think about the Fairlane site. A serious difference.

Thanks again.

Joe

It surprises me also. This changeover has probably been done numerous times and someone there should have the details. But you are correct, it is expensive to go either way.

joe1946
09-02-2008, 10:18 PM
The boys(and girls) at Advanced Auto have been really good to me. The conversion kit is now on the way. I should have it by Thursday or Friday. I just hope already having the manual steering box isn't going to throw things off.
I'll let you know how it goes.
Thanks.
Joe