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pbf777
04-06-2016, 03:36 PM
Does anyone know the correct casting number for the a.c. compressor support bracket?
Is it cast or steel sheet fabricated?
I was given the casting/engineering number EJB-2882-A as appears in the casting? Thank you, Scott.

partsetal
04-06-2016, 05:35 PM
Scott, EBJ-2882-A is listed as the part # for a 56 Lincoln, described as: Triangular 3-5/8" x 2-3/4" x 3-3/8" The '56 would not have used the 430. The part # for the 60 is EDJ-2902-B as shown in the Osborne Electrical book. I've just installed the compressor on mine and recall seeing a casting number. It is not accessible now. It is a heavy rectangular casting with a separate 'ear' that bolts to a head bolt.
Carl

partsetal
04-06-2016, 05:38 PM
Scott,
The number you posted, EJB 2882 does not show up in my casting number listings.
Carl

pbf777
04-07-2016, 12:30 PM
Thank you for the information. Scott.

partsetal
04-07-2016, 04:24 PM
It appears that EDJ-2882-B is the correct part number as seen in this photo.
Carl

pbf777
04-11-2016, 10:30 AM
Is this bracket (& others for AC) unique to Thunderbird chassis, or the same with others, using the MEL engine? Thank you, Scott.

partsetal
04-11-2016, 11:21 AM
Of the 6 430 Squarebirds with air that I've owned/parted all had the bracket pictured above. I've had a later 430 engine with a different style bracket, but I think it may have been an aftermarket one. Here is a photo of this different bracket.
Carl

pbf777
04-17-2016, 05:41 PM
Yes, I agree; it appears to be aftermarket. Thank you, Scott.

Derbird
05-27-2017, 09:47 AM
Does anyone have a good source for this bracket? I am going to be installing a classic auto air system and this appears to be the missing link.

YellowRose
05-27-2017, 10:00 AM
Kyle, according to what Carl ~partsetal posted you will need the EDJ-2882-B support bracket. I happen to have good contacts with Classic Auto Air and I can contact them on Tuesday to see what they have to say about this. I do not know how many 430 equipped Squarebirds they have put their CAA "Perfect Fit" system into, but I will find out. It might be that they either supply this bracket, make it in house, or know where to get it. Or maybe, they have not run into this situation in the past regarding a 430 equipped Squarebird. I will find out and let you know what they have to say.

The other suggestion I can make is to put a post in the For Sale/Parts Wanted Forum and ask if anyone owns an 430 AC equipped 1959-1960 Squarebird parts car that you could get that part off of...

I also have a question for you. Is your '59 Squarebird equipped with a 430MEL engine? If not, you probably do not need that mounting bracket, but I will find out.

Kyle, I just talked with Carl ~ partsetal. Carl said that IF you have a 352 equipped '59 or '60 Squarebird with AC, you do NOT need that support bracket. It was only used on a 430 equipped Squarebird with AC. So, which engine do you have in that Bird?

Derbird
05-27-2017, 11:04 AM
Someday I should fill out my signature. I do have a 430 in the car. I talked with CAA and they have everything but the bracket, du to it being such a low volume. I will post in the wanted section hopefully sooner than later. Thanks.

jopizz
05-27-2017, 11:08 AM
I would check with Carl and see if he has one. He is constantly parting out cars so he may have come across one.

John

YellowRose
05-27-2017, 11:12 AM
Hi Kyle, you have probably been talking with my CAA contacts then, Steve or Dwight. I have one more that I can call. This may present a real problem, because that part is not all that common. I have already done some searching on it, based on the part number that Carl posted. Your best bet is to post something in the For Sale / Parts Wanted Forum, and hope someone has a 430 AC equipped 1959 or 1960 Tbird or Lincoln equipped parts car you can get that part off of...

YellowRose
05-27-2017, 11:29 AM
I can tell you right now that Carl does NOT have one! I just asked him. He sold the only on he had. He said that if you cannot find one, (and it will probably another of those unobtainian type of parts hard to find) someone is going to have to take a look at that picture posted and see if they can make one to fit..... But, come Tuesday, after the holiday, I will start calling around to all the OEM/used parts houses, give them that part number and see if anyone happens to have one in their inventory... If anyone can find one, that is "The Bloodhound"... Me... as I am known. Once I put my nose to the ground, I don't give up!

jopizz
05-27-2017, 12:07 PM
I imagine the same bracket was used on Lincolns that had 430's. You might have better luck checking with Lincoln parts places since there were more Lincolns built with that engine than Thunderbirds.

John

YellowRose
05-27-2017, 01:07 PM
Kyle, I am going to send you a BIG list of Lincoln parts houses selling OEM and old Lincoln parts. Check out the Hemmings listing in particular! There are a lot to check out and see if someone has this part.

Derbird
05-28-2017, 10:13 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Oem-LINCOLN-A-C-COMPRESSOR-bracket-mount-430-1962-/322519156607?hash=item4b17a3c77f:g:2LIAAOSwygJXgna Y&vxp=mtr
Maybe this one?

YellowRose
05-28-2017, 10:47 AM
Kyle, that bracket off the '62 Lincoln does not look like the one posted in an early post here of what the EDJ-2882-B off a '59 or '60 Squarebird looks like! You may want to find one that came off a '59-'60 Lincoln 430 if possible and see if it looks just like the one in the pic of the EDJ-2882-B. I would think that they were probably using the same mounting bracket for both the '59-'60 Tbird and the Lincoln... Here are a couple of pix for comparison. First the EDJ-2882-B, and then the '62 Lincoln bracket.

jopizz
05-28-2017, 11:14 AM
Remember the mounting bracket goes according to the type and shape of the compressor and the way it was mounted. If you look at the original picture that Carl posted the compressor is mounted vertically. If you are not using a stock compressor the original mounting bracket may not work anyway. The later one on ebay looks like it fits compressors that are mounted horizontally which is the standard way to mount them.

John

jopizz
05-28-2017, 11:35 AM
My suggestion is to contact CAA and see if they have a standard mounting bracket and try it. You may find that a standard bracket works just fine with their compressor. Modern compressors are much smaller than they were in 1959 which is why I believe they had to mount it vertically.

John

OX1
05-28-2017, 04:21 PM
Of the 6 430 Squarebirds with air that I've owned/parted all had the bracket pictured above. I've had a later 430 engine with a different style bracket, but I think it may have been an aftermarket one. Here is a photo of this different bracket.
Carl


Thats the Lincoln bracket, right??

https://notoriousluxury.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/432.jpg
http://cdn.barnfinds.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/v4-2.jpg

I didn't think a York would fit verticle in a SB.
The SB in your pic had the std 430 SB, PS pump under it?
Wasn't sure if that bracket worked with the birds PS pump,
since the Lincoln had it's PS pump on the crank.

I've seen the 430/462 Lincoln AC bracket pretty
regularly on E-bay. Maybe I'll grab one.
Especially since I already have the 2 groove
Lincoln 430 WP and 3rd AC pulley.

YellowRose
05-31-2017, 10:51 AM
Here is where I am at in trying to find this EDJ-2882-B support bracket off a 430MEL AC equipped Tbird. Dwight and Steve at CAA say that they do not have one and to mount their Perfect Fit system onto a 430, they MUST have that mounting bracket. Then they have a bracket that attaches to it that will make it all work. As for finding that bracket from a '59-'60 Lincoln 430 equipped car with AC may not work. Because he said every Lincoln he has seen had the compressor mounted on the Passenger side, NOT the drivers side. However, they do not know if ALL 430 AC equipped Lincolns were like that.

So we are going to have to find that mounting bracket, OR someone is going to have to make one like it, IF we can find out what the dimensions are. I am going to get on the Lincolns Of Distinction Forum and see what the guys there can tell me about 430 AC equipped '59-'60 Lincolns and that mounting bracket... If it has one. I will let you know what they might say.

I just came from the LOD Forum and I see that John ~ driller, has already posted our need for this mounting bracket for us. So far, no responses that I saw... Thanks, John!

YellowRose
05-31-2017, 02:42 PM
I have located 1 mounting bracket so far. However, it is NOT for sale because it is on a 430 AC equipped Squarebird ('60 Golde Top, as I recall) that is intact and operational. However, the person who owns that Tbird has said that he will see if that mounting bracket IS the EDJ-2882-B. If it is, he will try to get me the measurements on it so that one could be made from it. He knows we have a picture of it but not the measurements. He will get back with me in the next day or two. He also has a 1960 Lincoln with a bracket on it, he thinks, but if so, he is not sure it is the same one as the Tbird bracket. He will check that also. He is well aware that this particular piece is almost impossible to find. IF we can get the measurements, then someone might be able to make the piece, using them and the picture..

YellowRose
05-31-2017, 03:41 PM
I have been calling around and have had no further luck. Except this... I was just told that 1958 & 1959 (but not 1960) 430 AC equipped Lincolns DO use the same EDJ-2882-B support mounting bracket! IF the car has a belt driven Power Steering Pump. This, according to my source, is right out of the Lincoln parts manual. So, start hitting the Lincoln sites I gave ya and see what ya can find!

I just added that information on the LOD Forum also!

OX1
06-01-2017, 01:59 PM
EDJ-2882-B off a '59 or '60 Squarebird

Is that bracket supposed to bolt on over the PS bracket that bolts to front of block?

YellowRose
06-01-2017, 02:23 PM
Henry, I do not know the answer to that question... Here is an update on the search for a EDJ-2882-B support mounting bracket. I FOUND one off a 1959 Lincoln Continental. However, it is NOT the mounting bracket that CAA needs to mount their mounting bracket kit to. Yes, that bracket is used on the 1958-1959 Lincoln and the 1959-1960 Tbird, with the OEM compressor that came with the car. The CAA uses Sanden compressors. I had thought they were using York or Tecomseh, but that was incorrect. That EDJ-2882-B is elongated and not square or rectangular in shape as the mounting bracket needed to mount their mounting bracket to, that mounts on that York compressor. So it was a wild goose chase for nothing, but one heck of a learning experience. Below I will post some pix of the CAA mounting adapter that attaches to the compressor and also the 2882 flat, squared mounting bracket we need to bolt to it. That way you can see how different they are to the EDJ-2882-B.

Kyle tells me that he has the ability and skills to make his own bracket and will probably go that route after he gets the CAA Perfect Fit. He will scope things out and see how to mock up a mounting bracket that will work. He has the pix of what the 2882 in the picture below looks like and the CAA adapter mounting bracket. We just do not have the measurements yet, but will be able to get the measurements of the CAA adapter bracket that comes with the kit from it.

Here are some pix... First is that EDJ-2882-B I found. You can see that though it is correct for 1958-1960, it certainly is NOT the shape of the support mounting bracket that will match up with their adapter kit. Then the CAA 7-182 or 7-183 adapter kit mount that attaches to their CAA Sanden compressors. Lastly, the 2882 is the mounting bracket that CAA says we need, but they do not make. As you can see, that 2882 bolts right onto their CAA 7-182 or 7-183 adapter mount. I am told that a York or Tecumseh compressor back then should have that flat 2882 bracket attached that you see in the bottom picture. If so grab it and see if you can find the Ford part # off it.

OX1
06-01-2017, 03:34 PM
I FOUND one off a 1959 Lincoln Continental. EDJ-2882-B

You found one for sale, or just found one?

I want to use the stock compressor (for looks)
with the rest of the classicautoair setup.
I have called them and they said they would
sell me the kit that way.

I could make my own bracket, but would rather not.

YellowRose
06-01-2017, 04:26 PM
I found one for sale for $175.... and it was turned down because it will NOT work with the CAA adapter mounting kit. It looks nothing like what has to be found to match up with their CAA mounting kit.... Take a look at the EDJ-2882-B pix and then the 2882 pic. You will see there is no way the EDJ-2882-B piece will mount to that 2882 mounting bracket.

simplyconnected
06-03-2017, 03:23 PM
I'm going to stick my neck out again with some words of caution, in hopes it will save you time and money:

Classic Auto Air sells Sanden air conditioning compressors. Their 'adapter' plate is supposed to transition between a Ford mount (Tecumseh or York) and CAA's Sanden.

While all this sounds complicated, It doesn't need to be if you make your own bracket. That's right, instead of doing all the transitions, fabricate (or have someone fabricate) a bracket that mounts to your engine as it holds the compressor you will use. That way you don't need a bracket and an adapter.

I had a long discussion about this with Ray because the information he had was not my experience. He spoke with CAA to confirm, they do not have anything to do with Ford brackets and they don't have Ford part numbers because they don't deal with Ford's compressors at all, just their own Sanden brand.

I ran into the fordification forum where one of their members fabricates and sells Sanden air conditioning compressor brackets for FE engines. CLICK HERE (http://www.fordification.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=68984) This bracket looks sturdy and well-made. Certainly, one can be fabricated for a MEL 430 engine. - Dave

YellowRose
06-03-2017, 08:22 PM
Thanks, Dave, for posting this information! This may be the way to go for the 430 owners.. Great information.

Wyldie
06-04-2017, 05:48 AM
I ran into the fordification forum where one of their members fabricates and sells Sanden air conditioning compressor brackets for FE engines. CLICK HERE (http://www.fordification.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=68984) This bracket looks sturdy and well-made. Certainly, one can be fabricated for a MEL 430 engine. - Dave

I made a post on here about this bracket that Tyler made on the fordification forum a couple of months ago, didn't get much feedback, I've ordered one should see it this week. I really like the idea of a low mount compressor, plus I can retro fit an alternator with it.

Will let you all know how I go

http://www.squarebirds.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=21208&page=2

YellowRose
06-04-2017, 01:59 PM
Hi Mike, thanks for posting that! I do not know how I missed seeing that, but I did. That might be a good way to go for all concerned..