PDA

View Full Version : 1960 Ford Thunderbird Hardtop - Project Sparky


Daleo56
12-27-2014, 11:40 PM
I have been up here in Reno for the holidays and while the wife was out walking the dog she saw this 1960 Thunderbird for sale down the street for $3,000. We talked about it this morning and went to see it. We offered the gentleman $2,000 and he accepted. Now the work begins...

The guy we purchased it from bought it from the original owner. He never transferred it into his name so that makes us the second registered owner. It seems to be all original except for the tires, new battery I put in today and a couple hoses. The odometer shows 7,330 miles which seem to match the limited drive train wear and small amount of original receipts we found in the glove box. I got it to turn over once I got it back to the house but the guy removed the gas tank and put it in the back seat so it will have to wait to run until I take it back to Los Angeles in a couple weeks.

It has a 352 4v with automatic trans and 3.10 gears. It is Moroccan Ivory color code R with code 84 beige leather seating. It was made on July 26th.

It needs quite a bit of restoration but I am fairly certain I can do most of it myself. It has a small amount of rust on the center of the rear fenders, a little bubble on one door bottom and a large dent on the passenger rocker. The floors are solid and the engine bay is only in need of a cleaning. It has all of the original molding and except for a cracked windshield (that's snow on it btw) and some questionable tires it relatively roadworthy.

I hope to find out more about it as time goes on and look forward to learning more about these cars.

Tim Daleo


https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8631/15937257860_1ab85f9352_c.jpg

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8585/16123818042_69711cde3f_c.jpg

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8568/16123818012_9efed2abe0_c.jpg

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8653/16122633431_1902b42fe9_c.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7546/15937257810_f5c8bee9ea_c.jpg

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8648/15938811527_cc48d1d4bd_c.jpg

jopizz
12-28-2014, 12:47 AM
Congrats on your new acquisition. It looks like you have a pretty solid car to start out with. I really like the tan leather seats with the two tone door panels. It's one of the prettier interior combinations in my opinion. The Moroccan Ivory exterior is pretty rare also. If the mileage is correct you have quite a find. If you have a chance go to the Thunderbird Registry and see if it's registered. If not please register it. Good luck and don't hesitate to ask for help.

John

840 840 840
12-28-2014, 12:53 AM
COOL! CAR! Ready to see the project move ahead.
Charley

YellowRose
12-28-2014, 01:22 AM
Tim, the link to the Tbird Registry is: www.tbirdregistry.com (http://www.tbirdregistry.com)

Go to Browse Tbird Registry and then to Is It Already Registered? Type in the VIN # and if it has been registered in the past, it will give you the Registry # to look it up. If it has been registered, you can possibly get a bit more of its history and you can update it now belonging to you and your wife.

Daleo56
12-28-2014, 11:39 AM
Tim, the link to the Tbird Registry is: www.tbirdregistry.com (http://www.tbirdregistry.com)

Go to Browse Tbird Registry and then to Is It Already Registered? Type in the VIN # and if it has been registered in the past, it will give you the Registry # to look it up. If it has been registered, you can possibly get a bit more of its history and you can update it now belonging to you and your wife.

Thank you for the link. I just registered it with the prior owner information!

Tim

DKheld
12-29-2014, 10:45 PM
Nice find!

I believe the Moroccan Ivory car is one of the featured cars in the dealer brochure.
Here's a link from the web....

http://www.classiccarstodayonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Ford-1960-Thunderbird-postcard-a.jpg

I'm lucky to own the '60 Tbird my Dad and Mom bought new so the '60 model is my favorite of course. :D

Hope to see the restoration progress on yours.

Eric

edit

btw - save yourself some grief and go ahead and buy a new gas tank. First tow bill home and the tank will pay for itself.
Rock Auto carries them now. Made in Canada.
http://www.squarebirds.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=18118

Daleo56
12-30-2014, 12:01 AM
Nice find!

I believe the Moroccan Ivory car is one of the featured cars in the dealer brochure.

Eric

My paint must be really faded or that is Yosemite Yellow.

Just got my registration notice.
http://www.tbirdregistry.com/viewdatasheet.aspx?RegistryNumber=57741

Tim

Daleo56
12-30-2014, 01:23 AM
btw - save yourself some grief and go ahead and buy a new gas tank. First tow bill home and the tank will pay for itself.
Rock Auto carries them now. Made in Canada.
http://www.squarebirds.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=18118

I just ordered the tank from Rock Auto (http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=261966&cc=1336632). It was $191.98 shipped. Almost 10% of the purchase price of the car. :)

simplyconnected
12-30-2014, 05:16 AM
It was $191.98 shipped. Almost 10% of the purchase price of the car. :)That's as cheap as I have ever seen. Car restorations cost money.

tbirdregistry
12-30-2014, 10:12 AM
Timothy's car is about my favorite 1960 combination of color and interior. Moroccan Ivory was a Thunderbird-only color for Ford Division while Yosemite Yellow was for the other Fords. The brochure pictures are of course not very good representations (of the color itself). This color was available for Lincoln (called Pastel Yellow) and Mercury (Sun Haze Yellow), "yellow" in the name but still Moroccan Ivory code R Ditzler Mix Code 81052.

There is really no bad Thunderbird color for sure but being an exclusive one makes for another subtle point about what makes a Thunderbird a Thunderbird. Just the marketing name alone seems to place the distinction above and beyond even Lincoln.

Thanks to you all for recommending that Timothy register his car. It was the 1,296th (1960) Hardtop be registered, out of 1,839 1960 models total, and is RN 57741.

By the way, on Registry web pages I use that brochure picture as a stock image when no picture of the actual car itself is available.

Happy New Year everyone.

Daleo56
12-30-2014, 11:37 AM
The color is more like Sierra Snow today. It will become an indoor car in another week.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10801953_10153513075848902_890729921023843305_n.jp g?oh=95bf1271ebf0fd02d2a5c1c7a67adbba&oe=54FE1A8D&__gda__=1430293170_5f98a221c23c3c452c61c7ea36a6428 f

tbird430
12-31-2014, 04:58 PM
Great score! Thanks for saving another one!! :)

-Jon in TX.

Dakota Boy
01-01-2015, 11:14 AM
you will find this site to be exceedingly helpful for your new project. Welcome-

Daleo56
01-04-2015, 01:47 AM
This site so far has been a lot of help! We leave next Friday to drive back to Reno to get the car. We had to pay almost $900 in back fees for the registration but at least we brought it up to date and made her legal.

I have already bought the new gas tank, a bunch of filters and plugs and brake shoes.

I noticed that the valve covers had been painted red and there is some yellow under them so I did some research and found the spray can equivalents of the Goldenrod Yellow valve covers and Colonial White for the air cleaner. I cross referenced these with the MacsAuto online catalog pictures and they match!


Seymour 620-1446 Industrial MRO High Solids Spray Paint, Ryder Yellow
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0088LV9BW

Seymour 16-140 Hi-Tech Enamels Spray Paint, Gloss Colonial White
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007H2SYGQ

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8648/15938811527_cc48d1d4bd_c.jpg

YellowRose
01-04-2015, 02:36 AM
Timothy, according to what Alan Tast has previously posted on here, these are the correct paint colors to get for the 1960 valve covers, and the air cleaner. He states that is best to go with the DQE enamel paint rather than the DAL lacquer. Alan is one of the worlds foremost authorities on Tbirds, having written several books about them. Here is what he posted.

Goldenrod Yellow: Valve Covers
1960 Ford/T-bird 352-300 hp
Ditzler Enamel/Lacquer #: DQE-80653 / DAL-80653
duPont Stock #/ Duco #: 1939
Martin Senour Lacquer #: 93-58044
Ford #: M2J-358

Colonial White: Air Cleaner
1958-1960 T-bird 352 & 430
Ditzler Enamel/Lacquer #: DQE-8103 / DAL-8103
duPont Stock #/ Duco #: 2214
duPont Dulux #: 93-59543
Martin Senour Lacquer #: 61T-2542
Martin Seynour Synthol #: 80T-1040
Ford #: M4J-524

The current online Ditzler Paint listing for 1960 Thunderbirds shows this for Corinthian White paint. Goldenrod Yellow is not listed.

http://paintref.com/cgi-bin/colorcodedisplay.cgi?year=1960&con=y&page=6&rows=50

Daleo56
01-07-2015, 12:18 AM
My 1960 Thunderbird repair kit showed up today :) :

Ebay'd Missing Hubcap - $19
Rock Auto Gas Tank - $192
Amazon'd Air Cleaner Paint - $22

I also have brake shoes, cylinder kits and filters on the way. We head back to Reno this weekend to pick it up. Right on!

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7514/15596613514_02ed42c450_c.jpg

YellowRose
01-07-2015, 12:24 AM
I see your goodies are coming in! With a new gas tank in place when you get her back home, at least you will know that the tank will be clean and you wont be sucking gunk out of it. Good luck on the trip to bring her home. Be careful when getting her up on the trailer that you dont damage anything underneath the car.

Dan Leavens
01-07-2015, 10:18 AM
Tim looks like you are on your way with the initial resto. Good luck with getting your new bird and travel safe heading home:D

Daleo56
01-10-2015, 01:46 PM
I got to Reno last night and am now trying to get the Thunderbird running. No spark. Trace the wire back towards the ignition...ugh.

That'll do it.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/1016490_10153576451553902_3927181938665275895_n.jp g?oh=3745d26d266d87f3df1e1a32e8841d22&oe=5531A3E0&__gda__=1428247513_5ecb4b71cbc5721e9fea3a63a2b5b7b 8

Daleo56
01-10-2015, 05:48 PM
I got it running and went for a quick drive before loading it on the trailer. Driving home tomorrow morning. Very happy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyZIAKctjNo&feature=youtu.be

YellowRose
01-10-2015, 06:06 PM
Congratulations, Dale! I see you fixed that wire, and got her running. She sounds and looks good! Here is wishing you a safe trip back home with her. Thanks for the short video clip. I re-sized your pic for you. Gots to keep them a8 800x600 pixels or less.

Daleo56
01-11-2015, 11:25 PM
Took 395 home from Reno and after 10 hours we finally made it home tonight. 14 mpg towing at 55 mph and no issues!

Now the real work begins...

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7544/16258308631_b175cca4e1_c.jpg

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8564/16234216856_0792d25a2d_c.jpg

YellowRose
01-11-2015, 11:36 PM
Congratulations, Dale! She looks pretty good. Needs a paint job down the road, but from the looks of her, she seems to be in pretty good condition. I think you said you have a shop manual, which if so, that is good because you will need one. Decide on what areas of the car you are going to work on first. Don't get into multiple projects at the same time. When you take off nuts, bolts, screws off, bag them or put them in a jar and mark what they came off of. Take a lot of pictures so that you have them to fall back on with you start putting stuff together again. The guys and gals here on the Forum will be a great source of information and help to you as you go along. Good luck and keep us posted with pix of how the work goes. Post them in the '58-'60 Squarebirds Forum instead of here in Our Rides. This Forum was meant primarily just to show off your Tbird.. Good luck!

Restifier52
01-12-2015, 01:54 AM
Did you tell uhaul what you were putting on that trailer? I recall being refused some years ago here in Michigan when I asked about getting one of those.

Rick

Daleo56
01-12-2015, 01:58 AM
Did you tell uhaul what you were putting on that trailer? I recall being refused some years ago here in Michigan when I asked about getting one of those.

Rick

Yes, for me the 4x4 factor made it work "This towing combination will work with your setup."

FINSRIN
01-12-2015, 11:24 PM
Good to see you are saving this one while still in savable condition vrs parts car condition:)