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hunty
06-10-2014, 06:09 PM
Hi guys I know the disc brake conversation subject has been well and truely covered, but I'd like to ask the Aussie owners what they've used. American bits are pretty scarce and pricey down here, so my question is, has anyone used later falcon suspension, a lot of people use vs Commodore calipers for upgrades on falcons will that work here?
Cheers Andrew

DKheld
06-10-2014, 09:30 PM
Andrew,

Sorry - a US response but maybe it will help? :D

I converted my car long before the scarebird brackets were available in the US (10+ years ago) using US Ford Granada spindles. Not the best approach today for folks in the US but maybe someone can cross reference the parts to the Australian cars and see if any interchange.

As far as I know - the only US cars that have the spindles that allow the '58-60 Tbird disc brake conversion are the mid 70's Ford Granada and Lincoln Versailles. (by allow I mean that once the car is converted the owner is able to align the front suspension).

I know for a fact that you cannot use the Mid 70's Thunderbird spindles and achieve a proper alignment.

Of course - you'll still need to deal with the power brake booster and wheels.

Good luck,
Eric

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hunty
06-10-2014, 11:37 PM
Thanks mate
I'm hoping that Ford was good to me and used similar spindles for our falcon (ours continued past 72). Most of the parts on those are still interchangeable with the first falcon with 25 odd years between them:) but I don't really want to put all the effort in to find they only "looked" the same.

lexdownunder
06-11-2014, 02:04 AM
Hi Andrew
Good to have another Aussie on this forum.
I'm in Tasmania & have a '59 HT that I converted to front disc brakes last year.
Below is a summary that I posted on this forum after completing the job. It gives the part numbers & suppliers for the parts you will require.
I ended up purchasing all the parts from U.S.A. suppliers & all up it cost about Au$1000.00 for parts & shipping to Aus.
Some parts were available in Aus but I found it cheaper to order & ship from U.S.A.
Anyway, have a browse through the summary below & weigh up your options.
Good Luck Andrew
Cheers
Lex


Hi Guys
Finally have the disc brake conversion completed & the bottom line is....it is just amazing the difference a decent brake system makes. I actually feel safe knowing I now have such improved stopping power.

Just to summarize the components I used:

ABS 8" booster & dual m/c (disc/drum) ABS Stock No 9787, Item No 270556931229.
This booster/m/c is designed for the '59 TBird with a/con. It comes complete with the bracket & is set to the correct angle so it clears the a/c unit etc. It also has the extended pedal rod so basically is a straight "bolt on" item.

Scarebird brackets Part No GXY.

Scarebird also supplied GM-S10 loaded calipers & brake hoses to suit

Rock Auto supplied '68 Mustang rotors. Part No 397 6006R.

By using the Scarebird brackets & Mustang rotors, I retained the OEM spindles & bearings.

As I said in an earlier thread, I was lucky & found suitable 14" disc brake ready rims at a local tyre fitting shop but I have no idea what vehicle they were off. They were just marked as Ford 14". The rims just touched the top of the caliper but a VERY small grind to the caliper fixed the problem. Rims fit perfect & I was able to have my existing tyres fitted to the new rims. Nice cost saver there!!

Had two pipes made for the new M/C & fitted a mechanical brake light switch to the pedal.

I can't take credit for any of this work. It was all done by my mechanic mate. He usually does Mustangs & has done many disc brake conversions on them but this was his first go with a Thunderbird.
An excellent job too!!!!

My thanks to all the members who have helped me with this conversion & given me priceless information that pointed me in the right direction.
I know there are many threads on this site re disc brake conversion & so many options & I hope that the info I have supplied here might be of assistance to other members.
Thanks again guys

Lex

Tbird1044
06-11-2014, 01:13 PM
Lex:
Thanks for the post. It is great to get a thread like this that actually has the part numbers and descriptions of what worked on doing a conversion. There are so many options, but one is never sure of what will work or not. I also like the idea that you were able to use the 14" rims.
Nyles

YellowRose
06-11-2014, 02:53 PM
Nyles, you are a Paid Member and there is a ton of information on the dual mc/dual 8" power booster/disc brake conversion process in the Members Forum for Paid Members... Including information on what year 14" Ford disc brake ready rims to look for, parts to get, part numbers, where to get them. You name it...

Buckaroo
06-11-2014, 03:55 PM
Would I be correct in assuming that my wire wheels could not be used if I changed to disc brakes in the front?

simplyconnected
06-11-2014, 04:03 PM
I'm told by folks who have 14" Kelsey-Hayes wire wheels, they fit just fine.

Buckaroo
06-11-2014, 04:08 PM
Thank you. Now I will have something to do this next winter.

hunty
06-11-2014, 10:24 PM
Hi Andrew
Good to have another Aussie on this forum.
I'm in Tasmania & have a '59 HT that I converted to front disc brakes last year.
Below is a summary that I posted on this forum after completing the job. It gives the part numbers & suppliers for the parts you will require.
I ended up purchasing all the parts from U.S.A. suppliers & all up it cost about Au$1000.00 for parts & shipping to Aus.
Some parts were available in Aus but I found it cheaper to order & ship from U.S.A.
Anyway, have a browse through the summary below & weigh up your options.
Good Luck Andrew

Cheers
Lex


Hi Guys
Finally have the disc brake conversion completed & the bottom line is....it is just amazing the difference a decent brake system makes. I actually feel safe knowing I now have such improved stopping power.

Just to summarize the components I used:

ABS 8" booster & dual m/c (disc/drum) ABS Stock No 9787, Item No 270556931229.
This booster/m/c is designed for the '59 TBird with a/con. It comes complete with the bracket & is set to the correct angle so it clears the a/c unit etc. It also has the extended pedal rod so basically is a straight "bolt on" item.

Scarebird brackets Part No GXY.

Scarebird also supplied GM-S10 loaded calipers & brake hoses to suit

Rock Auto supplied '68 Mustang rotors. Part No 397 6006R.

By using the Scarebird brackets & Mustang rotors, I retained the OEM spindles & bearings.

As I said in an earlier thread, I was lucky & found suitable 14" disc brake ready rims at a local tyre fitting shop but I have no idea what vehicle they were off. They were just marked as Ford 14". The rims just touched the top of the caliper but a VERY small grind to the caliper fixed the problem. Rims fit perfect & I was able to have my existing tyres fitted to the new rims. Nice cost saver there!!

Had two pipes made for the new M/C & fitted a mechanical brake light switch to the pedal.

I can't take credit for any of this work. It was all done by my mechanic mate. He usually does Mustangs & has done many disc brake conversions on them but this was his first go with a Thunderbird.
An excellent job too!!!!

My thanks to all the members who have helped me with this conversion & given me priceless information that pointed me in the right direction.
I know there are many threads on this site re disc brake conversion & so many options & I hope that the info I have supplied here might be of assistance to other members.
Thanks again guys

Lex

Thanks mate, I was asking to try and do it on the cheap 😏 I somehow don't think that's going to happen lol. I had a look last night, I need to rebuild my whole front-end anyway, ah well at least it will be a new car by the end of it.

simplyconnected
06-12-2014, 10:52 PM
...Scarebird brackets Part No GXY.

Scarebird also supplied GM-S10 loaded calipers & brake hoses to suit

Rock Auto supplied '68 Mustang rotors. Part No 397 6006R...
As a side note, GXY is short for Galaxie because in 1959, Full Size Ford and Squarebird shared the same spindle.

I'm using a pair of Scarebird brackets on our '59 Galaxie for a couple years and they are good. Check out local prices for the Chevy S-10 pickup (1983-97) or GMC S-15 (1983-90) brake calipers and pads (they are the same part). Over here, just about any parts store across the country has these 'in stock'. I gotta believe you do too. I'm using the 4WD caliper, but the 2WD works just as well. The only difference is where the hose comes out. If the listing says, "LOADED" that means the caliper has the brake pads, pins, rubbers and hardware included, ready to bolt on. <--buy these in matched LH/RH pairs. - Dave

hunty
06-12-2014, 10:59 PM
As a side note, GXY is short for Galaxie because in 1959, Full Size Ford and Squarebird shared the same spindle.

I'm using a pair of Scarebird brackets on our '59 Galaxie for a couple years and they are good. Check out local prices for the Chevy S-10 pickup (1983-97) or GMC S-15 (1983-90) brake calipers and pads (they are the same part). Over here, just about any parts store across the country has these 'in stock'. I gotta believe you do too. I'm using the 4WD caliper, but the 2WD works just as well. The only difference is where the hose comes out. If the listing says, "LOADED" that means the caliper has the brake pads, pins, rubbers and hardware included, ready to bolt on. <--buy these in matched LH/RH pairs. - Dave
Thanks Dave
We didn't get any of the gmc utes over here, well a few have been imported, so it makes it a little harder. But I do know of some good f100 wreckers and*most of them also carry the gmc stuff so I'll have to do the ring around.
Cheers Andrew